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Can you throttle steer a FWD car?


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I used to autocross a Dodge Neon ACR back in the late 90s, early 2000's.  The hot setup was 225s up front and 205s in the rear with 1/2" toe out in the rear.  Definitely not a high speed track setup ;-).  

 

You would induce as much trailing throttle oversteer you could muster and then plant your right foot when you were pointed in the right direction.

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The Swedish flick is where you put the car into a drift at the start of a corner then steer it through with the gas, if you watch early rally Saabs it very evident when y do it. 

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"The Swedish flick" gives me nothing by Google.

 

I believe the driving technique referred here is called Finnish flick (or the Scandinavian flick).

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Here  at 1:25 (first). It's called "vastaheitto" in Finnish language btw.

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It's a steering motion to induce counter- corner oversteer-

 

you get the car to overrotate to point the wheels toward the inside

of the corner so that you can use forward drive traction to counteract

the tendency of the car to try to go in a straight line ('centerfugal force')

as you have far more drive traction in a low grip situation than you have lateral grip.

 

It's just a quick 'jab' of the steering towards the OUTSIDE of the corner to 'pull'

the rear wheels to the outside of the corner, followed by significant lock in the opposite direction and

throttle application.

Anyone who has driven EITHER WD car in the snow with any aggression does it by instinct-

again, watch WRC in Sweden- the nose of the car NEEDS to be pointed very much into the apex of

the corner, with the drive wheels (front pulling, rear pushing) providing a good percentage

of the cornering force.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick

 

describes it for a FWD car, but a RWD car can do a very similar thing,

with a difference balance of steering, brake and throttle inputs-

the end result is that the ENGINE drives a good percentage of the direction part of your vector change...

 

t

it's really easy.

and it's really easy to f*#$ it up

and end up in some absurd and hard- to- explain

positions.  He remembers from being a teenager...

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I am certainly to blame for offending Finnish sensibilities. I've heard both Swedish and Scandinavian used in this context; I tend to default to the shorter because I'm fundamentally lazy.

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