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Help! Valve seals won't fit


bwint313

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I'm pulling my hair out on this one.  I've tried two different kinds of valve seals and neither seems to fit correctly. I believe I should have the early style valve guides, but I've attached a pic of my guides and measurements in hopes that someone in the grand ol' 02 universe can help me make sense of this. My car is a 73 '02 with an e12 head (and before anyone asks, yes I have used the search feature). 

 

Guides I've tried:

- Reinz 12-21025-01: these came out of the box a bit rusty and just seemed way too tight even when putting on with a socket and light rubber mallet. They didn't feel like they would fit, but I'm also wondering if they were old and rusty so they failed too easily when install (open to input).

 

- Elring 187666: these fit over the guides better, but they were not long enough to 'lock' into the notch on the guide.

 

Any help is appreciated. I'm in the final stages of a head rebuild and it stinks that this is what's holding me back.

 

-BW

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22 minutes ago, Guest_anonymous said:

The elring style is the old style you need. They don't "snap" fit like the new style they press on and sit above the lip a bit.

 

 

 

Thank you so much! The info on it not snapping in is so insanely helpful. I really appreciate it!

 

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2 hours ago, coloincaalpine said:

I can't really tell,is that a pic of the top of the valve guide?        Did you replace the guides?

The top of your guide should look like this pic.

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My valves don't look like that, but I haven't replaced them.  The pic you shared is of the 'new' valve guide, isn't it?

 

 

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