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'74 tii with carbureted engine...value?

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In my search for a '02, I've come across a relatively low rust '74 tii that had its fuel injected engine replaced with a carbureted one at some point by the prior owner. So block and all injection parts are gone, but all other tii specific stuff remain with the car. The car runs and drives, will need paint and the interior tidied up, but looks pretty complete and only real rust is in the spare tire well area that I can see. What sort of premium is a car like this worth over a non-tii in similar condition? Thanks.

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As it's missing the entire original tii engine and w/o any pix, 5-10K??? Really hard to say sans pictures as everyone's definition of "pretty complete" and "relatively low rust" is so different considering what part of the country the car has lived in.

 

You could remedy that though, as there always seems to be at least a couple of fairly complete tii engines for sale. Granted, the numbers won't match but getting it back to original specification will only increase its value.

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I was looking for more of a percentage that a tii w/o correct injected engine would be worth vs a standard one of same year and condition. This particular car is slightly north of $10k asking price BTW.

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$1200. 
 

$1000 for the struts and $200 for the clock. 

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12 hours ago, cdn97986 said:


... I was looking for more of a percentage that a tii w/o correct injected engine would be worth vs a standard one of same year and condition...

 

 

I'd view it differently: how much would the lack of fuel injection diminish a tii's value?

 

I don’t think anyone here (a.) tracks ‘02’s sales with that granularity and (b.) has a sufficient sampling of tii’s with and without tii engines to give you a meaningful number.

 

My comments would be (1.) a round taillight tii might take a larger hit than a square tailllight tii — because I believe tii enthusiasts are more critical of alterations to round taillight examples, and (2.) the discount for a tii missing its fuel-injection probably ranges from 0% to 20%. There are so many potential “offsets” to a missing fuel-injected engine that affect a particular car’s value, For instance, I’d guess that a carbed ‘74 tii with a perfectly rust-free body — a rarity — would suffer a much lower percentage of devaluation, maybe none. And a '74 tii with dual sidedrafts -- properly configured and tuned -- might suffer a lower percentage of devaluation than one with a single downdraft car. So it depends!

 

Although there is much more attention to “numbers matching” with respect to ‘02’s today than there was ten years ago, I’d guess that the vast majority of ‘02 owners and buyers is not obsessed with this characteristic — present writer excluded — and would “forgive” this particular ‘74 tii its transgressions if it re-acquired a tii engine, as @1936spydersuggested.
 

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Steve

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, cdn97986 said:

The car runs and drives, will need paint and the interior tidied up, but looks pretty complete and only real rust is in the spare tire well area that I can see. What sort of premium is a car like this worth over a non-tii in similar condition?

I'd say, almost nothing. Needing paint and interior bits can get pricey anyway, and the only real rust you see is usually the tip of the iceberg.

 

So work backwards. If you were to come across a numbers matching Tii that you think looks and runs like the way your car will when you're done with it, what's that Tii worth today? Subtract 20-25% for your car not having the right engine, AFTER you're done fixing everything. That's leaving the carb'd engine in place.

 

Now if you replace it with a Tii engine, well, still worth less. If you go crazy with the car and existing engine, who knows.

 

I think $10k isn't bad depending on the rust. Get it on a lift.

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Thanks for everyone’s input here on valuation. This is definitely not a rust free body, but better than many I’ve seen. Price currently is a little strong from how I read these comments, so any decision here would require some negotiation.

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0% difference (sans those struts as mentioned).  Best of luck as the hunt goes on!  

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I'd check to see if the block was actually swapped or just the Tii block has had carbs added. Not an uncommon thing to do "back in the day".  Maybe its the original block and then all you need to do is source injection equipment...

 

Just a thought!

 

Jason

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On 6/10/2020 at 8:49 PM, Mike G said:

$1200. 
 

$1000 for the struts and $200 for the clock. 

Don't forget the boxed trailing arms and gas tank.

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20 hours ago, 2002iii said:

Don't forget the boxed trailing arms and gas tank.

 

meh on the gas tank, and unfortunately.... nearly all the boxed trailing arms I've seen had enough corrosion trapped inside that it was safer and structurally stronger to just start w/ non-boxed cores.  To each their own though, I just wouldn't put any additional dollar value on them.

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So a quick update on this '74 tii, turns out the car has the original #s matching block and correct head still in the car, only the injection was removed in favor of a Weber carb. Backstory on the car is the current owner purchased ~ 2 yrs ago thinking it was a fully functioning tii with injection, and paid the premium for it. When he learned it was not, he decided to find another one to restore, and sell this one. Car appears to have all of the other tii bits (clock, suspension, brakes, etc). Does run and drive. Rust appears to be mostly surface. I included some pics below. Asking $10k. Thoughts?

 

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Doesn’t seem unreasonable. Do you want a tii?

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I'm was not looking for a tii specifically, just looking for lower rust cars out west and came across this one. Always thought it would be cool to have a tii, but with the recent market thought my chances were pretty slim. This car definitely needs work, just looking for a solid base that won't need rust repair (or at least minimal).

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