Catastrophic engine failure

[Dudeland]

... waiting for the slew of engine swap opinions... 

[Cooper]

@stephers yeah, Im considering that it  might’ve been an internal break That caused everything els also. 
 

@Dudeland I do have a nearly complete m42 swap standing by... But that’s going in another car

[M3M3]

6 hours ago, 2002Scoob said:

Wowzas! How does that happen? 

 

From your photo, it looks like the nose of the crank is off-center or bent relative to the front seal/ timing cover hole... Am i right?

 

Cuz that's sure what it looks like...

 

5 hours ago, rcf925 said:

NO oil, Engine seize, Check dipstick, I'd be willing to bet empty or close to it

 

rather than "no oil", i would say "no oil PRESSURE"....which, since the warning light was left unfixed, was not detected.  no oil to bearings, crank bearing shells seized/disintegrated.  remains of the shells will be in the bottom of the oil pan.

Edited March 15, 2020 by mlytle

[rcf925]

That was my next thought, No oil pressure, Bad oil pump

[Schnellvintage]

I bet the oil pump seized and possibly disintegrated during that failure.  

[tech71]

If the engine failed internally (yea, it did), a look at the oil should tell you that. Seen it many times on aircraft piston engines.

Silver looking oil, filters packed with metal and once, a direct reading oil pressure gauge stopped working when it clogged up with debris from the disintegrating engine.

Is that E21 engine you have lying around a 2 liter?  Just sayin....

 

Edited March 15, 2020 by tech71

[Slavs]

Drain the oil, it may have all types of metal shavings in it if the engine seized. Put it in 2nd gear and try pushing the car to turn the engine. If it doesn't turn, it's seized. Those oil pressure lights fail because of the contacts on the instrument cluster. I reach behind my cluster all the time to get it to work. Keep your fingers crossed that it's only the pulley.

[Cooper]

It is seized, I know that. The oil on the dipstick looks normal, but I don’t know if you’d be able to tell by just the dipstick. I’ll be taking the whole thing apart when I find the time. 
 

the e21 engine isn’t a 2 liter which is why I’m hesitant use it, because I’ll want to change It again if I do. 
 

i have a couple engine blocks, but I don’t know how long they’ve been sitting or how the previous stored them, so I’d need to get them checked I think

[NYNick]

Seems to me draining the oil and inspecting the oil and plug would be telling. If not, certainly dropping the pan would do it. 15 minutes tops.

[jgerock]

7 hours ago, percy said:

 

 

 

https://www.bmw2002faq.com/forums/topic/136631-installing-crank-pulley/

 

Paul W offers some insight regarding possible failures other than lack of oil and/or oil pressure. ^^^^

 

Although there is some debate regarding the use of grease on crankshaft oil seals, consider that some grease may not be seal (or otter) compatible.

Second picture you posted is mine from my super-seized 69 engine.

[TobyB]

"Do you want to super- seize that?"

 

No, thanks, regular seize is fine.

 

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in for pics of the carnage when you get it apart.

Edited March 16, 2020 by TobyB
loves trainwreck pictures

[2002Scoob]

My pesos are on broken/dropped oil pump chain/sprocket, or general oil pump failure. 

[Brandon]

That thing is all done.  Just find a used engine and swap it in.  Real easy to do an engine swap on these cars, a novice should be able to pull it off fairly easily over a weekend or two. Good luck!

[M3M3]

but just like rubber neckers at a big car accident, we are all straining our necks to see what the interior carnage looks like!   drop the oil pan!!!!

[Cooper]

I’m trying to get to dropping the oil pan this week. Hopefully tomorrow.