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Price: $100
Location: South Bay money-centric land

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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/redwood-city-turbocharged-1974-bmw-2002/7016424705.html

 

NOT MINE, NO AFFILIATION. COPIED THE CL AD AND RE-POSTED HERE FOR DISCUSSION. I have my thoughts but gonna just leave this as is.  

 

 

The last time I posted this, I was a bit swamped by interest and had to take it down. In light of that, I will be taking a different approach to selling the car this time.
This Sunday, 11/10, I will be showing the car to interested parties at the Woodside Plaza Center in Redwood City, off of Woodside road. Folks can sign up for 30 minute slots, and I will take you on a drive up Woodside into the hills and back. During that time, you can ask as many questions about the car as you like, and I will be as honest about it as I can be. The link to sign-ups will be at the end of this posting.

Here are the reasons to buy this car:
- The M15 engine with mechanical fuel injection and turbocharger makes the car run like a rocket, or the closest thing to an ultra-rare 2002turbo. The previous owner ran at 8psi, but I run it at 4-6 because it scares me.
- The drivetrain has thus far been exceptionally reliable, and I have daily driven it for weeks at a time with virtually no issues. When I bought it, it barely started and would regularly blow intake runners off. Most of my energy has been spent getting this thing running really well.
- It handles exceptionally well for a vehicle of its age and is a great 'sleeper' car.
- It does have a 5-speed swap, so one can cruise at 2-3k RPM comfortably on the freeway.
- All major work on the car the past 25-ish years (including the turbo install) has been done by Motorspeed West in Santa Clara, so the car is by no means a cobbled together monster. There are people who know exactly how to work on it if you ever get out of your depth, as I have.

Here are the numerous 'bad' things about this car, which I am trying to be as honest and straightforward about as possible about:
-The engine numbers do not match the chassis.
-The body:
--- Unknown to me upon purchasing the car, the rear end was grafted on from a 1976 model after a rear end accident back in the late 70s. The base color for the rear is blue, whereas the car itself was originally 'Malaga' and is now black. The title is clean and the VIN matches a 74 tii.
--- The previous owner paid for 1/2 of a good paint job, so the front of the car has a high-gloss black, and the rear is a matte black.
--- There is surface rust on the hood, roof, and behind the rear left wheel. There does not appear to be any structural rust anywhere on the car. There is cracked paint falling off of the hood because the old owner used to back fire and blow intake manifolds into it.
--- There is panel damage around the rear left taillight.
--- The hood is difficult to raise and impinges with the right door a little bit.

-The interior:
--- There is an upgraded stereo system that needs some tuning, currently it only outputs sound from all speakers when the volume is cranked. I believe this to be an issue with the amp and that an audio shop could fix it easily.
--- The dash is cracked.
--- The front seats are non-original and do not bend forward, as far as I can tell.
--- Seals all hold but don't look great.
--- Windshield fluid container and pumps were removed for the intercooler mounting, and never re-installed.

Here is what I think the car needs:
- Full frame strip-down, light body repair, and re-paint.
- Moderate amounts of interior work.

This car is for you if:
- You laugh in the face of danger.
- You think you can make all of the above into something great.

Please, please, please, read the above carefully and look at the pictures and try to decide if you actually are serious about buying this car before signing up to come see it. I would really appreciate if you did not waste my time or take away someone else's spot if you don't think you are in a position to buy this car. If you are still interested, please continue reading:

Here's how I will be selling the car:
- I will show it to as many people as I can over 8 appointment slots for 4 hours on Sunday 11/10, in the Woodside Plaza Center parking lot, near Pet Food Express. See the photo for reference on where I will be. Navigate to 372 Woodside Rd, Redwood City, CA 94061.
- During your slot, you can ask as many questions as you like as we cruise around the foothills. I will drive and try to put the car through its paces as best I can.
- I will not entertain any offers in-person during the day. I will not sell the car to someone who signs up to see it before you.
- Those who appear very interested will be able to schedule time to drive the car themselves at a later time.
- I will send out a google form to everyone who came to see the car, and sell it to the highest bidder via silent auction.

If this sounds good to you, reply to this ad with the subject line "74 TOOTII" and the following in the body of the e-mail:
- Name:
- Phone Number:
- Preferred E-mail address:
- Preferred Appointment Slots (please give a range):

The appointment times can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZFJBUdz70vFkaZ6FVuyMdvOZEXYKZYTthy0_GYa_OME/edit?usp=sharing
I will update slots as full as I receive replies, and they will be allocated on a first-come, first-served basis.

  • do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

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Hey Guys,

This is my posting! I was actually waiting to post on here because I was at work all day yesterday and didn't have my password for this forum saved on my work computer. I'm glad someone was courteous enough to post it for me. Even being a sporadic poster but frequent lurker on this site, I knew that conkitchen would be the first person to hop on the 'the owner of this car is selling for too much' bandwagon, as he has done week-in, week-out for the two years that I have been on this site. Thank goodness! The world continues to turn.

 

The fact is that I live in an area where I had to pay a lot for one of these cars, and where one of these cars sells for a lot. I've had it for two years, done my best to do important work on making it run well and bring joy, but now I am being priced out of my house and will not have a garage anymore. I need this car to go to someone who is serious about addressing the many flaws that it has, since I don't have the time any more to save up for a frame-up respray and body fix.

 

I was deliberately very forthright, aggressive, and unreasonable in my posting because the last time I made a CL posting and put my phone number on it, I got 27 phone calls in 3 hours, most of which appeared to be tire kickers and lowballers. One guy just couldn't wait to offer me $2500 for it. Right now, I work 10-12 hours a day, and that sort of coordination is not something I can handle. So this time, I've done my best to scare away those most aggressive CL lurkers. And it has worked! I've gotten a few e-mails from people who said they've read what I posted but would like to meet at a different time. These are people who are clearly serious about considering buying the car, and I've set up time to meet with them. Now that it's been a day and I'm not going to be exposed to the torrent of inhumanity that is the first page of CL, I have changed the posting to be much more reasonable.

 

As for the two comments that have already appeared on here, I think both of you need to consider that every post you ridicule has a person like me on the other end, who may just be trying to do right within their own circumstances. Especially in an area as expensive as the Bay Area, you should applaud me for trying to take advantage of the inflated market for these cars. If you had to pay rent here, you'd do the exact same.

 

And as for the shopping cart, I took that photo precisely because I came back from the hardware store to a unicorn parked across from my car. The shopping cart was left in the spot before he pulled in. No, I am not some sort of underhuman who doesn't fulfill the social contract of returning the cart.

 

Finally, if anyone from the forums are interested in looking at the car, I'm obviously not expecting an offer for $9500 to appear out of thin air for a car that looks like this. If I can pump up some people from CL and get them to over-pay, that is great. If you think that you're willing to pay more than $8k depending on how fun it is, get in touch. I'd much rather have it go to someone who knows what they are doing.

 

Cheers,

-Griffin

 

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35 minutes ago, TOOTII said:

........ I'm glad someone was courteous enough to post it for me........

 

I knew that conkitchen would be the first person to hop on the 'the owner of this car is selling for too much' bandwagon, as he has done week-in, week-out for the two years that I have been on this site......

 

You're welcome, and I never said or implied "selling for too much"  But I do have other personal beliefs (as a direct result of your copy writing style) which I chose not to post. You can thank me for that as well.  

 

Good luck with the sale.

 

And as the realtors-who game the home buying process like to say location location location. With used car salesmen-it's condition condition condition.  

 

 

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