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1976 Chamonix, 5-Speed, Recaros, BBS

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Price: $100
Location: Inglewood, CA

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I have an older neighbor who isnt too tech savvy and is thinking about selling this car. Why? Because its a '76 and we live in California. Its a solid car. Original Chamonix color, though it looks like its been partially resprayed, if not entirely. Interior has redone Recaros with matching rear seat. Factory A/C car ( looks factory anyways) and overall in decent condition. Its been sitting, but it fired up right away after the floats were full of fuel. Nice basketweave BBSs also. He didnt mention a price, because he didnt really seem like he had thought much about it, just said "it wont be cheap" but who knows what that actually means. I figured I would post it here to get an idea of what the FAQ can estimate it to be worth. I might have it go to BaT if they will accept it and he wants to deal with it. Id rather it goes to someone here, than to deal with that headache.

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Just make sure you know what YOU will be getting saddled with if you list it on BaT for him. Right or wrong, buyers over there expect a very responsive seller to answer any questions, some reasonable, most unreasonable, but expected. Nice cars do nice money over there, but make sure you don’t put in a ton of effort to have the car not meet some ridiculous reserve that he’s set. Good luck. 

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Im on Bring a Trailer daily now as my entertainment lol ... I know what works and what doesnt. My biggest issue would be getting the reserve to what he wants. Its a pretty nice car. I just dont know what one of these commands being a 76, but also having some choice mods, like the 5-speed, the Recaros and a desirable color.

 

Thoughts?

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They are blue, I need to get the car out and cleaned up so I can get good pics taken. 

 

Does the A/C look like a stock setup? I doubt it works, but it might be a complete setup

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A/C was a dealer/port installed option, and was either a Behr or a Frigiking. You have the Behr unit in there. That center console is actually all that most people are looking for. Downstream they’ll substitute in some newer components. (Or, some will yank it all from the car. Even at its best, in California, the car won’t get chilly at any point.) If you turn the heat off, and the fan blows on the A/C, you’re good. 

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47 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

A/C was a dealer/port installed option, and was either a Behr or a Frigiking. You have the Behr unit in there. That center console is actually all that most people are looking for. Downstream they’ll substitute in some newer components. (Or, some will yank it all from the car. Even at its best, in California, the car won’t get chilly at any point.) If you turn the heat off, and the fan blows on the A/C, you’re good. 

 

Or Clardy. 

 

... he's good for what?

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3 minutes ago, majdomo said:

Heya from R3v...what is he looking to get for it? Does it run / issues / rust / etc?

Does he want to trade for my e30??? ;)

He definitely doesnt want an E30, I had mine with me and he said it was too new haha

 

Im not sure what he's looking to get, nor what is remotely fair. I dont think $5k will do it, and I think $10k might be pushing it for a 76, BUT it has a LOT of goodies and seems to be a solid runner. Like I said, it had been sitting for months before I asked him to fire it up. He put the key in and after pumping the gas pedal a few times it fired up.

 

Im guessing he wants $10k if not more... no idea how accurate any of that is, especially since he thinks it costs $100k for a 914 with a 6 conversion (half that for a mint one)

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30 minutes ago, ray_ said:

 

Or Clardy. 

 

... he's good for what?

 

Wasnt Clardy a future duplication of the older Frigiking? I believe the engineers started a new company, or something. Either way, I think the Clardy was an aftermarket unit, a few years later, whereas the other two were available, installed, when the car got to you at your dealer. 

 

By saying “he’s good,” I was saying that if someone needs air conditioning, they’re unlikely to look at a nonfunctional compressor and have a problem with that. The evaporater is there, which is the hardest thing to retrofit with a whole new console. (It’s not hard, but requires you to find one [the hardest part], mount it, and drill into the firewall. If the original stuff is all there, with the other parts inside the engine bay broken, it’s easier to source and replace those parts with newer, upgraded, equipment. 

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7 minutes ago, 2mAn said:

Im guessing he wants $10k if not more... no idea how accurate any of that is, especially since he thinks it costs $100k for a 914 with a 6 conversion (half that for a mint one)

 

If that car cleans up the way it looks like it should, the drivetrain is good, minimal rust, and he puts on new tires, I don’t think $10K would be a problem if someone can drive it away. (That’s a handful of assumptions.) $15K wouldn’t surprise me. Add rust or drivetrain issues and you’ve got a big variable. 

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4 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

 

Wasnt Clardy a future duplication of the older Frigiking?

Nah.

 

4 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

I believe the engineers started a new company, or something. Either way, I think the Clardy was an aftermarket unit, a few years later, whereas the other two were available, installed, when the car got to you at your dealer. 

 

I think region more or less dictated which of the 3 brands got installed.

 

4 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

 

By saying “he’s good,” I was saying that if someone needs air conditioning, they’re unlikely to look at a nonfunctional evaporator

You mean condenser :)

4 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

 

and have a problem with that. The condenser is there

 

You mean evaporator ;-)

 

4 minutes ago, Seth Horwitz said:

 

, which is the hardest thing to retrofit with a whole new console. (It’s not hard, but requires you to find one [the hardest part], mount it, and drill into the firewall. If the original stuff is all there, with the other parts inside the engine bay broken, it’s easier to source and replace those parts with newer, upgraded, equipment. 

 

Well all righty then ;-)

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10 minutes ago, 2mAn said:

OK, I think we are clear on the A/C...

 

Common rust spots to take pics of besides the rear shock towers? I want to document this good to let the pics do the talking

 

The rockers all around the car. (Basically anywhere water can pool, inside a panel, and cause rust. Look for bubbles in the paint that hint at rust.) Wheel arches. Pull out the spare tire and take a pic of the well and try to get as much of the gas tank as you can.) If you can get under the car to get the frame rails, that’ll help, too. I assume you’re not going to pull up the carpet, but footwells have been known to rust, on occasion. Actually, I’m sure there’s a post on here, somewhere, listing all of the sweet spots. 

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