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Onto my next trouble shooting escapade.. what tool do you guys use to check fuel pressure on a 73tii.  Was going to disconnect the line after the filter and put a guage there...

 

Next, in case I need a fuel pump. Anyone use one of these?

 

https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/dfp-fd0042/overview/

 

Says it has a max fuel pressure of 30psi. tii needs 28. Should be fine. Inline.

 

I have a spare one, but not sure if it works... Can you dry check a tii fuel pump?

 

Roman

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Hi Roman,

 

That pump will require barbs at both ends. 

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You want something with nipples (8mm inlet , 6mm output), and it helps if they include the electrical hardware, as you may have an old connector that is hard to mate up to.

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Search on BMW p/n 16121107414 and you'll find plenty.

The Bosch pump is the "real deal" https://www.mister-auto.ch/fr/pompe-a-carburant/bosch/0-580-464-070/#product-item-characteristics, but I think these other pumps are also good.  (I get EU sources because my IP address is here, but you'll likely get domestic hits.)

They mostly have 3 bar output, or 42PSI.  That Summit pump at 30PSI would work, but it's operating at the top of its output, and if they are 10% off their spec, you're under pressurized.

 

I have tested my spare pumps by shooting some WD-40 into them and letting them spin very briefly just to confirm they were not frozen.  You could use kerosene or turpentine if you wanted to verify the flow rate.  I think it's supposed to be just under 1 liter (85ml?) in 30 seconds.

 

These pumps have a smaller diameter compared to the original, so you will need a piece of 1/8" rubber to wrap around it.  I have used rubber placemats, and most recently a section of heavy sound isolation material from a sound-proofing project.

 

I have my pressure gauge installed between the filter next to the radiator and the input to the Kugelfischer Pump dual banjo fitting.  (The gauge is face down in this picture.)

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Here are a couple of good guides from a great Tii blog:

Fuel Filter Upgrade 2002Tii.pdfFuel Pump Installation.pdfFuel Pump Restoration.pdf

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A good place to check the pressure is between the KF pump banjo bolt line that leads to the cold start valve. Ideal pressure is 28 psig.

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This is what the stock tii Bosch fuel pump looks like

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My spare assembly looks like this (I've been running the E30 318is in tank pump since October 2010)

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Terrific cut-away drawing of the system Jim!

That's a good placement idea.  I am going to add a pressure gauge sensor; this is a good location.

And it looks like you polished the top of the tuna can?  Nice!

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4 minutes ago, Swiss 2002Tii said:

Terrific cut-away drawing of the system Jim!

Credit for that enhanced graphic goes to long-time FAQ early member c.diesel  (Creighton Demerest) who hasn't posted here in a long time.

Here's the front view

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