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Before my question, heres some context.

 

Just purchased my 2nd 2002. The 1st one was in pretty good shape so didnt need to do any intense work on it. But the new one I got I plan on doing a bare metal restoration on.

 

Its my first time doing this but heres my plan.

 

1) rip out interior

2) take out whatever I can in the engine bay.

3) drop front subframe / engine / transmission 

4) drop the rear subframe

 

Is this a good plan? (Not the real question)

 

I've done interior ripping (not the dash though)

I've helped with a subframe removal and restoration.

 

I haven't done any engine removal / transmission / front subframe work.

 

I've been reading and it seems like its simpler to drop all of that from the car all at once. The problem is I dont have an engine hoist and I'm not sure if I can store an engine hoise along with all of the parts coming off the car.

 

So heres the question!

 

Would using and engine support bar like this: https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-engine-support-bar-96524.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot provided

 

Work something like that work in lowering the engine and subframe? I'll probs take as many things off before dropping. Like the strut towers.

 

Also any tips for doing a bare metal resto? Anything I should be looking out for?

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you're gonna want to life the car and leave the subframe / motor on the ground. 

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I see. So how did you prevent the engine from dropping to the floor? Like how did you lower it to the floor after unbolting everything

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You can rent an engine hoist for about $40. 

 

They also fold up pretty compact for storage if you decide to buy.

 

 

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As Mr Adams says you will want to leave your wheels and suspension on as long as you can unless you are planning to make a body dolly or some way to tip the car and move it around. Search on here for rotisserie ideas (I like the idea of the big quadrants of plywood for rolling the car).

 

If you are going bare metal metal then I humbly suggest that you get the car blasted. Look up ‘dustless blasting’ - that is what I am going to do if hell freezes over and I decide to do a bare metal respray again. I promised myself that I wouldn’t do it again after using a combination of abrasive products and paint stripper. After months of hard work (and some expense in terms of sanding discs, clean and strip discs and roloc), I would be happy pay someone to get it done within days (or hours). 

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never done that without a 2 post lift, which makes it a walk in the park. I had a small trolley jack and a plank under the front subframe. And I did the whole drivetrain at once just because I could 🙂

 

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I did an engine swap last year, also without a lift. A few jack stands and jacks do the job. Just need to raise the car high enough, then drop everything - engine, suspension/subframe and transmission.

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Harbor freight has an ATV jack, seen above with the engine sitting on it.  You want that.  No need for the engine hoist or spanner bar to support the engine.  Good idea to have a competent friend around when the time comes, but you can do it by yourself. 

 

Tip; ratchet strap from the ATV jack up and over the engine to hold that guy in place.

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never done that without a 2 post lift, which makes it a walk in the park. I had a small trolley jack and a plank under the front subframe. And I did the whole drivetrain at once just because I could
 
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Dang... that looks super satisfying Haha. I might want to try that.... how long did it take you to do?

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 1. Buy the Harbor Freight collapsible engine hoist and take the motor out the top, or 

 2.If you decide to drop the engine and trans out the bottom make friends with someone who has a lift  or pay for it to be done.

 

Pulling a drive train on any car jacked up that high and using a floor jack and jack stands as shown in the photo just makes me cringe. For anyone who has done it this way  congratulations you got away with it.

If your going to do a complete bare metal restoration, you must be ready to spend a lot of money  Cheaping out  at this point at the risk of injury is just plain foolish IMHO

Make sure you are alive and well to enjoy your project

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Before you do anything, have some method of supporting the chassis on wheels, whether a simple wood frame with casters or the different types of rotisseries, etc.

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Yup! Looking to get a car dolly or rotisserie

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if you want to go all in bare metal resto, get the car dipped. Especially if its rusty

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if you want to go all in bare metal resto, get the car dipped. Especially if its rusty
What do you mean by dipped?

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