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Door brakes replaced, still clicking


jturner

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Hi all—

 

I have loud clicks/pops in both of my doors while opening/closing. Everything I read on the forum led me to replacing the brakes.

 

I replaced my door brakes today with Harry's aftermarket solution. I was surprised to find very new looking BMW replacements already in my doors.

 

Anyways, the clicking is no better with either set of brakes. The violence seems to be on the pillar mount, popping inside the fender. Is that mount supposed to be moving?

 

 

 

 

 

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Justin Turner

'74 Malaga 

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1 minute ago, halboyles said:

You can also use rivets by drilling holes through the door frame and the door brake pin bracket while holding the bracket tabs with pliers.  Fast, almost painless and no sheet metal cutting necessary..

 

@halboyles Now we're talking...

 

Do you put a rivet in the center? Or is there some meat on the bracket above and below the arms?

 

Problem is I cant see what it looks like inside the pillar.

Justin Turner

'74 Malaga 

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If your brackets are still firmly attached to the door frame, the click may be either a worn pin or worn plastic sleeve that goes around the pin.  Since your door brakes are new or nearly so, I'd suspect the pins--either worn, bent or both.

 

mike

'69 Nevada sunroof-Wolfgang-bought new
'73 Sahara sunroof-Ludwig-since '78
'91 Brillantrot 318is sunroof-Georg Friederich 
Fiat Topolini (Benito & Luigi), Renault 4CVs (Anatole, Lucky Pierre, Brigette) & Kermit, the Bugeye Sprite

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21 minutes ago, mike said:

If your brackets are still firmly attached to the door frame, the click may be either a worn pin or worn plastic sleeve that goes around the pin.  Since your door brakes are new or nearly so, I'd suspect the pins--either worn, bent or both.

 

mike

 

The pillar mount is completely loose. Where is the pin youre referring to?

Justin Turner

'74 Malaga 

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8 minutes ago, jturner said:

The pillar mount is completely loose.

Then that's your problem.

 

8 minutes ago, jturner said:

Where is the pin youre referring to?

It holds the door brake to the bracket on the door frame.

 

mike

'69 Nevada sunroof-Wolfgang-bought new
'73 Sahara sunroof-Ludwig-since '78
'91 Brillantrot 318is sunroof-Georg Friederich 
Fiat Topolini (Benito & Luigi), Renault 4CVs (Anatole, Lucky Pierre, Brigette) & Kermit, the Bugeye Sprite

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44 minutes ago, jturner said:

 

@halboyles Now we're talking...

 

Do you put a rivet in the center? Or is there some meat on the bracket above and below the arms?

 

Problem is I cant see what it looks like inside the pillar.

 

I tried that before welding mine, it only lasted two months. Two bolts might work better. 

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10 minutes ago, Mike G said:

 

I tried that before welding mine, it only lasted two months. Two bolts might work better. 

 

Did you try one rivet in the center? looks like there might be enough meat for two rivets off center.

 

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Justin Turner

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Same problem for me and I went through the rivet attempt and found it hard to get my rivet gun tip in close enough to do a proper job with a single rivet inside the mount. Got discouraged and never tried the rivets on either side. So for the time being I removed the pin, let the brake slide into the door and I am careful with my free swinging door.

 

But...I do not like that, so I was wondering about this solution. Ugly perhaps, but is it possible to order a nice shiny new A pillar mount, get the old one out completely and then 

WELD THE NEW ONE ON THE OUTSIDE? I know this would move the pin point inward toward the door break maybe a 1/4" max, but I think that break has enough play in it where that would not be an issue. 

 

I ask because my old Mercedes has the A pillar mount on the outside by design and it is bolted in with two bolts. 

 

Just an idea.

 

Randy 

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