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I’m guessing he listed it as an auction, elsewhere, and just copied the description. I’m more curious on how you buy a car without a title. I’m sure it’s doable, and I’d imagine you have to prove that the VIN isn’t in some stolen database (as if one existed in the ‘70s), but with my luck I’d somehow wind up in jail. 

 

EDIT: Yup. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-2002-TII/292941889790?hash=item4434b280fe:g:KKgAAOSw~atcU2sB

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9 hours ago, Seth Horwitz said:

.....I’m more curious on how you buy a car without a title. I’m sure it’s doable, and I’d imagine you have to prove that the VIN isn’t in some stolen database (as if one existed in the ‘70s), but with my luck I’d somehow wind up in jail. 

 

 

Seth,

 

There are actually many states — Georgia and Maine are two examples I know — that neither require nor generally issue titles for “old cars”. A bill of sale is all you need to transfer ownership or obtain registration. Georgia gave me titles for the ‘73 and ‘76, because I begged and asked nicely, but the DMV agent was like, “Why do you even want these.” The ‘61 F-350, which has lived in Maine from new (Katherine’s family’s Maine summer business purchased the truck new in July 1961), has never had a title, has always been registered, and Maine says they cannot issue a title for such an old vehicle.

 

And, yes, many states do require titles for registration. From what I’ve read on this forum, there are end-runs around the no-title issue. Some of these require the car to be temporarily registered in a different state, where titles are available based on bills of sale, and then transferred to the target state.

 

Suffice to say, time and dollars may be required, but a title can be obtained for a non-titled car in many of those states that mandate a title for registration.

 

(The un-titled ‘74 tii in the present instance, is, certainly in the seller’s eyes, only a parts car. And there are lots of parts cars without titles.)

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

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CT is another state that won’t title a car > 25 years old.

However, if you’re lucky you’ll get to the Registration counter at the DMV and a newbie, who doesn’t realize the state doesn’t issue titles for cars that old, will have you fill in the paperwork to get one and... about two weeks later one will arrive unexpectedly in your mailbox. True story (this happen when I bought my first 02 a couple of years ago)!!!

Of course every time since then I have arrived at the Registration counter only to be greeted (if you can call it that) by a seasoned veteran in the prime of the “I hate everyone” phase of their DMV career. It seems like these individuals get pleasure out of telling me that I will have to come back (and wait in line again) after handing me a piece of paper that requires me to drive my unregistered car to a local garage, have the VIN # verified and get a signature from the “specialist”. I feel like a little part of my soul turns black each time I find myself paying another human being who can’t troubleshoot a car without a computer just to verify the VIN on my very analogue, low tech (by current standards) early-70s BMW. The best part is watching them walk around the car looking everywhere in an attempt to find the VIN only to have them turn to me and ask, “Uhmmm, sir, where can I find the VIN number?” After showing them it usually takes less than 10 seconds for the “specialist” to blurt out, “Yeeeup. Looks good to me. That’ll be $20 cash”.

The only thing that prevents me from going absolutely apenuts crazy after such an experience is knowing that the next time I go back to the DMV I’ll be walking out with a new set of Classic Car plates for my recently acquired 2002.

Life is good!!!

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