Value of an E10 shell....

[rjd2]

Hi all-I am here to pose a question that is entirely subjective. However, this community is likely the BEST place to pose said question, and thus, I come to you with a need to know your thoughts:

 

what do you think a fully prepped, primed, ready for paint, blasted, and welded E10 shell is worth? Let's call it a body, hood, doors and trunk lid that has been stripped, blasted, repaired, and primed-ready for paint, and all rust has been replaced/dealt with. I have a '73 roundie I have stripped down, and my body shop and I are gauging repairing this shell vs trying to find a better candidate, and it's getting into a numbers game. Assume I've got all the glass, drivetrain, etc to put the car back together once it's painted. Thanks for your opinions.

[RogerRamJet77]

Hi all-I am here to pose a question that is entirely subjective. However, this community is likely the BEST place to pose said question, and thus, I come to you with a need to know your thoughts:
 
what do you think a fully prepped, primed, ready for paint, blasted, and welded E10 shell is worth? Let's call it a body, hood, doors and trunk lid that has been stripped, blasted, repaired, and primed-ready for paint, and all rust has been replaced/dealt with. I have a '73 roundie I have stripped down, and my body shop and I are gauging repairing this shell vs trying to find a better candidate, and it's getting into a numbers game. Assume I've got all the glass, drivetrain, etc to put the car back together once it's painted. Thanks for your opinions.

$5000


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[joysterm]

What your describing (best case) is going to be costly if you are looking for someone to go to that length of repair and prep AND then sell it,   

 

I think to you are far better off to gauge the level of restoration you are prepared to spend based on the condition of your current car,  Spending 20k on metal work alone is not unheard of.  If you can find a rust free car you are obviously farther ahead  but they are  getting harder to find and more costly  because of it.

 

IMO either way there are  not many shortcuts.

 

What sort of estimates have you got  for the repairs and extent of the work your shop feels is required. May be add a few pics to share.

 

Good luck....big decision

Edited November 17, 2018 by joysterm

[PaulTWinterton]

2 hours ago, joysterm said:

What your describing (best case) is going to be costly if you are looking for someone to go to that length of repair and prep AND then sell it,   

 

I think to you are far better off to gauge the level of restoration you are prepared to spend based on the condition of your current car,  Spending 20k on metal work alone is not unheard of.  If you can find a rust free car you are obviously farther ahead  but they are  getting harder to find and more costly  because of it.

 

IMO either way there are  not many shortcuts.

 

What sort of estimates have you got  for the repairs and extent of the work your shop feels is required. May be add a few pics to share.

 

Good luck....big decision

 

Saved me the typing.   ? 

 

Somewhere there might be a perfect and prepped shell that someone is compelled to sell cheap. 

 

Maybe during the next Stock Market crash.  

 

I can see $10k  more than I can see $5k.

Edited November 17, 2018 by PaulTWinterton

[Mike Self]

Hate to flog a dead horse, but unless that shell is a Baur Targa, then it's an E114, not an E10...

 

Pictures would help.  Bet there's someone out there from Salt Country with good mechanicals in a rotting body that would be happy to glomb onto your E114 shell...

 

mike

[Mike G]

1 hour ago, rockyford77 said:

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I’d buy at that price. And mines not even that bad. 

 

rjd2 I assume you’ve seen this one? Not exactly what you’re looking for but could be a good start. 

 

https://www.bmw2002faq.com/forums/topic/231723-72-california-clean-shell/

[joysterm]

5 minutes ago, Mike G said:

 

https://www.bmw2002faq.com/forums/topic/231723-72-california-clean-shell/

a great color,  looks straight, decent value.... surprised its still for sale

[rjd2]

Thanks guys. My body work guy is in some ways throwing numbers against the wall, but he thinks that we are in the ballpark of 9-10k for body work(replacement panels included). I got the complete car for 1k. I'd need another 4-5k in blast and paint, at which point I'd be into the car for ~15, but theoretically have a completely blasted, welded, epoxy primed and painted shell. I have everything else I need to put it back together, including a brand new head, tanked/planed block, and a rebuilt 245 Getrag. I know this is all big ticket s**t, at least relative to what an E10 was worth 3-5 years ago. I'm considering this a relatively higher end build, that would in some ways be justified by the current valuations of fully restored cars selling in the 15-25k ish range.

 

There's a part of me that just hates the idea of taking a shell and turning it into a carcass on a car that's so pretty when completed....

 

Yes, I saw that burgundy shell. While a GREAT candidate, I just don't like the color, and it'd be a shame to paint that particular car, since the paint is in perfectly workable condition IMO.

 

If anyone in the central Ohio region has a donor car they are going to carcass-ize, let me know. I'm interested.

[Mike G]

There’s also a lot to be said for the devil that you know. 

[ray_]

1 hour ago, mike said:

Hate to flog a dead horse, but unless that shell is a Baur Targa, then it's an E114, not an E10...

 

Pictures would help.  Bet there's someone out there from Salt Country with good mechanicals in a rotting body that would be happy to glomb onto your E114 shell...

 

mike

 

 

^ that.

[chargin]

Shell?

whats in it?

 

rolling with subframes or really just shell?

 

i’ve seen decent “Square Shells” in high priced SoCal Not selling at $2000

 

[Einspritz]

Tii with sunroof and matching block?

 

 

[joebarthlow]

pics. you might find a buyer without doing the work. I know if I was buying a shell, I'd like to see the extent of the rust and/or repairs before filler and primer goes down

[rjd2]

Non-Tii, no sunroof. Roundie. (I'm assuming that plays into the end result valuation, right?). Yea, this is the nail biter-ish part of it: what is a standard roundie restored going for? i see non-tii non-turbo roundtail cars sell in the 15-25k range that are restored it seems, but not the 40k and up values that'd make a restoration a no-brainer.

 

RE: Chargin-currently, there's nothing in it save for suspension, brakes, dash, and a steering column. it's stripped. I'm gonna go out and get pics on monday. Both frame rails are shot, A pillars bad at the rocker, rockers, the window sill lowers, quarter panels, floors, trunk floors. it's apparently worse than i thought- once they got the sound deadening out the swiss cheese showed. the shop i got it into has a pretty reasonable rate, and they do great work; it's hard to get a car into them cause they are in high demand, so i kind of have a "window of opportunity" here with this particular shop. as you may know, it can be surprisingly hard to find a shop willing to do a full rebuild on a shell!

 

if anyone knows of someone chopping up a carcass, let me know. a source for all the bits and bobs that restoration design doesnt sell(window sills, etc) could change the nature of the thing, if i could find them. hell, even 2 non-rusted doors would do something!

[Mike G]

Too bad this isn’t closer

 

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/71-bmw-2002/6729416581.html