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Tii vs “regular” 2002 engine bits interchange


tdskip

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Good morning (again), given that my engine could be welll and truly past it it seems like I should know what engine bits a Tii and non Tii share. 

 

Air and fuel are obviousky different, but block and crank and pistons too?

 

Thanks in advance for the education!

 

 

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And cam are the same.

 

The head is different inasmuch as it has no provision for a mechanical fuel pump (a regular head with a block off plate will work). The block has an oil return port for the KF, but that can be added to a standard block. 

 

The exhaust manifold may flow better and is a different PN. 

 

I'm sure others are chiming in :)

Ray

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Front lower timing cover.

 

Front accessories pulley is also different. 

 

Alternator mounting positon/bracketry too?

 

As Ray mentions, the oil-filter housing has the provision for a banjo style oil line on the Tii for the KF, carb'd 02 does not. 

 

edit- above are the things I noticed that were different. 

 

Block is the same, internals the same, pistons had a higher compression ratio. My recent build I used a tii block/pistons and everything else from my original motor bolted right up to make it a carb'd motor. I used my original crank and rods too. 

 

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Thank you. 

 

So it appears that as long as my block is usable sourcing everything should be relatively straightforward, yes? 

 

I've been told that piston quality has been an issue, maybe I'll do some more searching and start a thread on that.

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1 hour ago, 2002Scoob said:

As Ray mentions, the oil-filter housing has the provision for a banjo style oil line on the Tii for the KF, carb'd 02 does not. 

This orifice for the tii oil line can easily be drilled and tapped as all the filter housings from late '71 on have the boss for the fitting.  It's also a good place to fit an oil temp sender unit, as it measures the oil's temperature fresh out of the oil pump.

 

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55 minutes ago, chargin said:

Tii to Carb

or

Carb to Tii?

 

 

Hopefully neither, hopefully my current Tii block will be healthy enough to reuse. This discussion is really about understanding how the cars are built and having a sense of my options in case the original engine is totally FUBAR.

 

 Make sense? 

 

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If your car’s engine block is original to the car — engine number = VIN — you should have a good engine or machine shop examine and measure it before discarding an original tii block.

 

If you dropped a valve, I’d guess you might need a new piston set. But even if an engine didn’t drop a valve, an overhaul of a typical worn engine often requires a new piston set.

 

A badly cracked block is often discarded. A block with one badly-scored or damaged cylinder, however, is often sleeved. If a car is more collectible, such as a tii, and retains its original engine, more than one cylinder might be sleeved to address serious cylinder damage.

 

Given the gunk in your engine, I’d be far more concerned about the aluminum cylinder head than about the cast iron engine block.

 

But first, you need to remove the head to see what happened.... ?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

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1976 2002 Polaris, 2742541 (original owner)

1973 2002tii Inka, 2762757 (not-the-original owner)

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40 minutes ago, chargin said:

 

Is your Car a Tii?

Or

is your Block Tii and your car Carbed?

 

It’s a ‘74 tii with a tii engine.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

1976 2002 Polaris, 2742541 (original owner)

1973 2002tii Inka, 2762757 (not-the-original owner)

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11 minutes ago, tdskip said:

 

.....One happy note - the engine number matches the VIN.

 

 

Great! Think “repair and re-use”! 

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

1976 2002 Polaris, 2742541 (original owner)

1973 2002tii Inka, 2762757 (not-the-original owner)

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