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Squarelight seat questions


Mike Self

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Two quick questions about squarelight seats:  

1.  How does one remove the upholstery panel on the back side of the front seats?  I know they're different from those on roundies but don't know how they're different.

 

2.  What's the bolt size (actually wrench size) used to remove the pivot bolts that hold the front seat back to the cushion and allow the seat back to pivot for back seat access.

 

Don't have a squarelight handy to check...

 

TIA

mike

 

'69 Nevada sunroof-Wolfgang-bought new
'73 Sahara sunroof-Ludwig-since '78
'91 Brillantrot 318is sunroof-Georg Friederich 
Fiat Topolini (Benito & Luigi), Renault 4CVs (Anatole, Lucky Pierre, Brigette) & Kermit, the Bugeye Sprite

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Mike,

 

My ‘76 is many miles away, so I’ve been trying to remember how the ‘75-‘76 seats attach the recliners to the bottom cushion and the backrest, because it is very different from the pre-‘75 seats.

 

After you pop off the black plastic recliner covers, you can, I believe, remove the backrest by removing two large Philips head screws that attach into the sides of the backrest (4 screws per seat).  If you want to remove the recliners from the seat cushions, however, I believe you simply — OK, maybe it’s not so simply — remove a circlip that secures a pivot shaft to the recliner.

 

Here’s the parts schematic:

 

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=2215-USA-04-1976-114-BMW-2002&diagId=52_2358

 

And below are some photos of the spare front seats for my ‘76, both before and after their reupholstering.  You may have to zoom in to see the recliners more clearly in the second photo.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

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1976 2002 Polaris, 2742541 (original owner)

1973 2002tii Inka, 2762757 (not-the-original owner)

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Steve, in your second picture (with the seats upside down) there appears to be a silver-colored circlip that retains a bracket; I think that's the pivot point where the seat back tips forward for back seat access.  So if that's the case, removing the circlip and its bracket would allow the seat back to be separated from the cushion, same as removing the chrome-plated bolts on roundie seats.  Is that the case?

 

Thanks for the pictures.

 

mike

'69 Nevada sunroof-Wolfgang-bought new
'73 Sahara sunroof-Ludwig-since '78
'91 Brillantrot 318is sunroof-Georg Friederich 
Fiat Topolini (Benito & Luigi), Renault 4CVs (Anatole, Lucky Pierre, Brigette) & Kermit, the Bugeye Sprite

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14 minutes ago, mike said:

Steve, in your second picture (with the seats upside down) there appears to be a silver-colored circlip that retains a bracket; I think that's the pivot point where the seat back tips forward for back seat access.  So if that's the case, removing the circlip and its bracket would allow the seat back to be separated from the cushion, same as removing the chrome-plated bolts on roundie seats.  Is that the case?

 

Thanks for the pictures.

 

mike

 

Yes, Mike, the circlip is the equivalent of the pivot bolt on the earlier seats.  But it’s been 15 years since I pulled one of these apart myself and I can’t recall what happens to the small lever that also appears to fit over the end of the pivot shaft.  It might have been a non-event....

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

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1976 2002 Polaris, 2742541 (original owner)

1973 2002tii Inka, 2762757 (not-the-original owner)

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I had some pix on my laptop showing parts and pieces when I broke mine apart. I will try to locate 

 

One other thing about painting these. I cleaned, primed and painted all of my parts and when reassembled the mechanisms worked like shit. 

 

Turns out that layer of primer/paint was thick enough under some of the moving parts to gum up the works. So my advice is just a thin dusting single coat and lits a grease when reassembling 

 

I went and scrabed certain areas of mine with dental tools to remove some paint

 

Randy

1975 - 2366762 Born 7/75

See the whole restoration at:

http://www.rwwbmw2002.shutterfly.com

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Yes, Mike, the circlip is the equivalent of the pivot bolt on the earlier seats.  But it’s been 15 years since I pulled one of these apart myself and I can’t recall what happens to the small lever that also appears to fit over the end of the pivot shaft.  It might have been a non-event....

That small lever basically pops out.  It has a c-shaped wire retention clip in a groove that mates in an internal groove.  So just pry it out first. 

 

It is easier to remove the seat backs by taking out the pair of large phillips flat head screws on both sides first.  Then remove the mechanisms without the mass of the seat back in the way.

 

When I refurbished my mechanisms, they were slightly rusty. I placed them whole into a bath of Evapo-rust, which left them clear of rust and a dark appearance like they looked originally.  I then gave them a light coating of oil.  (Or maybe the delco spray lube used for door mechanisms, I don't recall). 

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3 hours ago, worzella said:

One other thing about painting these. I cleaned, primed and painted all of my parts and when reassembled the mechanisms worked like shit. 

 

Turns out that layer of primer/paint was thick enough under some of the moving parts to gum up the works. So my advice is just a thin dusting single coat and lits a grease when reassembling 

 

I went and scrabed certain areas of mine with dental tools to remove some paint

 

Randy

 

I'm sure mike has some special lubricant in his cabinet that will do the job!

John in VA

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'03 530i "Titan"  '06 330ci "ZHPY"

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