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3-Point Retractable Seat Belt in the back of their BMW 2002


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Hello,

My wife got a 75 2002 and likes to drop the kids off at school twice a week with lap belts and booster seats and one very anxious Dad.

 

I know that Simeon installed 3-Point Retractable Seat Belts in the back of a 2002, but I'd love to see better pics of the anchor point in the rear.

 

If anyone has done the same, could you please post some shots so I can get a better idea of where to have that third anchor point?

Thanks.

R.

 

 

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Hi Simeon,

 

I don't know, I'm a total car illiterate.

 

I think the c-post is the is the anchor in the pic above right? Between the side window and the rear window?

 

Is there a bolt hole in the rear shelf too that would do as an anchor?

R.

 

 

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I have a 75 and just installed a set with retractors on the back shelf.  I got a 1/8" plate steel and cut it to use as a 4"x4" washer securing the retractor.  I got mine from bluedevil.  I also replaced the front when I was at it.  I am happy with them. They are the best solution to a bad design.   

 

P.S I added the D loops on the back pillar to help spread the load in case of an accident.  It also raises the attachment point so that if there were a taller person in the car, upon impact they wouldn't break their collarbone, or worse yet their back. 

 

 

 

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There are different types of retractors. Vertical mount are made to mount under the seat area as seen in the first photo posted and the retractor is hidden under the seat. The bottom mount (same as the lap belt mount?), the c pillar and the latch make the three points. I believe this is standard for the 76?

 

The horizontal mounts are made to either mount visibly on the package shelf in a (possibly) existing bolt or make a plate for it. There are others that are meant to mount underneath the package shelf and be hidden. either way the shelf, underseat mount and latch make up the three points. You can also add the C-pillar to this equation so there are 4 points of contact to the car body and possibly a more comfortable angle of belt.

Adding the c piller may be at the expense of a slow retracting belt. 

I have pics on my blog.

 

Buy some new kits from Bluedevils or Blunttech.

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There is a sweet spot in the production series when the C post mount was factory installed. This should be detailed in the link posted above. You can definitely use the right retractors without it (Hemco the Australian manufacturer of my belts tried to convince me that this was the preferred method of installation). I too was concerned that a crash would tend to compress the spine of anyone who's shoulder would be above the seat back, hence why I went with the C post mount. The added friction and twists do slow the action down slightly but overall I have no complaints. The underside of the shelf is reinforced using plates that came with the belts with a captive UNF nut that meets Australian standards. I have included a picture from outside that shows a bit more detail. 

 

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