1968 2000 Project (1341378)

[tjones02]

Here’s an example of an original ‘65 hood emblem. Trim ring and serifs included.

Edited May 29, 2019 by tjones02

[duggi]

11 hours ago, tjones02 said:

Here’s an example of an original ‘65 hood emblem. Trim ring and serifs included.

 

Wow, thanks for the photo! Really cool to see.  I assume this is your dad's TISA?

[NickVyse]

I never even noticed they were two part before..

 

[tjones02]

And, here’s the one on my ‘66 1800A. Still two piece, but silver rather than brass colored and no serifs.

[MOJOJOY]

[duggi]

4 hours ago, tjones02 said:

And, here’s the one on my ‘66 1800A. Still two piece, but silver rather than brass colored and no serifs.

 

Do you know the build-date of this car?  Just wondering when the cut-off may have been....I've been doing similar research for the dimpled hood trim and have a suspicion that changed around 02/67.

 

I pulled up photos of my '67 2000 with a 9/66 build-date, it looks like it has a one-piece roundel, but comparing photos to my 11/67 build car they don't look quite the same, the edges are different and it looks like an interim design between the 2-piece and later one-piece...see photos below.  EDIT: on second thought it might just be a shadow of the black paint that's adding a weird visual effect that makes this roundel look different than that on my red car...not certain now.

 

Unfortunately the Chamonix car is in storage so I can't see it in person to take the roundel off and look at it in detail.  I'd love to hear your all's thoughts though...see below:

 

from my 9/66 build 2000:

 

and from my 11/67 2000 (original and replacement):

Edited May 29, 2019 by duggi

[tjones02]

Duggi,

My 1800A was built June 3rd ‘66.

Dad’s TiSA was built May 26th ‘65.

[duggi]

1 hour ago, tjones02 said:

Duggi,

My 1800A was built June 3rd ‘66.

Dad’s TiSA was built May 26th ‘65.

 

Then based on that and the fact that my 09/66 2000 has the later one-piece, the 2-piece disappeared between mid-June and late August of 1966.  That's a pretty narrow window to figure out a production change this late on!

[tjones02]

After having another look, my 1800A’s hood badge may be one piece. I’ll look at it in person when I get another chance in the daytime.

[duggi]

Ah, another update after a few months of nothing happening with my NK...

 

I've been stalled on getting the front subframe bits out to a powder coater, using the excuse of "I don't have an engine to go in yet, so no rush," but this weekend I finally scored a "running" engine locally for only $1,000!

 

The owner states it ran great and just burned a bit of oil before he pulled it out of his '73 2002 to swap in an m20.  Picked it up Saturday.  It wears a single Weber carb, supposedly a 40 or 45 (been sick and haven't had time to look at it closely) on a modified manifold...should be a bit of fun I guess.  The engine is supposedly stock with a relatively recently rebuilt head.

 

Based on my attempts at finding one over the last two years, $1,000 seemed like a bargain for usable-as-is 2.0 m10, so I'm pretty pleased.  Next week I'll get the front subframe out to the powder coater so I can start getting the front back together and "new" engine in.  Pics next weekend, hopefully ?

[duggi]

I grabbed the pics and description from the ad and quickly ran down to look at the carb, as I couldn't find anything about a Weber 40 downdraft...it's a DFAV 40, apparently discontinued by Weber.  Pics of engine and carb below, as well as original ad from facebook:

 

 

 

 

[duggi]

The stars have aligned and I have the financial opportunity to really dive into this car this fall/winter at a deeper level than I'd originally planned.  Full rust-abatement, full repaint (I'm going with Polaris), and complete drivetrain/suspension/subframe overhaul.  Basically going to redo the entire car except for the interior seats and headliner (those can be done later on).

 

I'll be using my Chamonix '67 as parts for this one then will be parting it out or selling the rest as a parts lot.  I'm considering committing a sin and taking the early trim pieces from the '67 and putting them on this car...I think the nose trim will really pop against the Polaris.  I hope that doesn't offend anyone too much...I just like the way the early trim looks and I already have the full set, so why not?

 

Stay tuned in the next month for more details and pics!

[NickVyse]

excellent, and do what you want, it's your car and only a handful of people will know the difference anyway!

[duggi]

Progress update time!

 

Tomorrow I’m picking up the front subframe, sway bar and a few other front end parts from the powdercoaters.   Finally figured out I have the later 2002 style front subframe (the car was produced in 11/67 for those of you trying to narrow down when that change-over happened) and I have the correct NK engine mounts to go with it, so can feel confident it came from the factory that way.  Engine mounts are on order.

 

The $1,000 TII engine that was “known good running” ended up being a mess inside.  The recent head work the guy had done was of good quality and will be a great performance head, but when we took off the oil pan we found this:

 

 

Nice shiny chunks of metal everywhere...I bet the guy who sold it to me didn’t swap out this engine “just because he wanted an m20,” but whatever... the block seems fine and is currently out getting bored/honed.  Turns out that there was a brand new oil pump in the engine and the bolts holding onto the center bracket weren’t tightened all the way (the little 10mm ones i think), came out, and thrashed about the engine...we found remnants of one of them.  The material you see above are chunks of the piston skirts...see image below:

 

 

So the engine is getting rebuilt.  I’m putting in 10.5:1 lightweight pistons, lightweight rods, and having the crank knife-edged.  I’m also adding an 8 lb aluminum flywheel (it’s gorgeous), a Shrick 292º camshaft, and dual Weber 40 DCOEs, it should be a pretty fun engine and is in-line with what I originally wanted anyway.  I’m hoping for 140-150 HP.

 

I’m having trouble finding a body shop willing to take on body work and paint for this car right now, so am going to plod-along with the mechanical work until I can find a place who has time for me.  I’ve gotten a lot of advice to take it to SoCal, but that’s a lot of extra expense and I refuse to do it, since it’s already a very expensive project (I’m sure you all know what I mean...).

 

I still have to figure out brakes and front suspension before I can put the engine in and wheels on the ground...as you may have seen from earlier posts this car has what I suspect are standard 2002 front struts, wheel hubs and brake assemblies and I’m waiting to bring my 67 2000 down this weekend (finally) to compare those parts, and harvest them if needed.

 

On that subject, my ‘67 Chamonix will be available (sans a lot of parts, see list below) for a new owner to take it on.  I can’t afford to let the car sit in my driveway past the end of December or maybe January, so if anyone is looking for a chassis for parts or a project, I’m very flexible on price (I'll put it out there that I'm asking $750 and am very open to offers...I paid $2400 for it in 2016)...the value to me in that car is in the parts I need from it (and not having to store it in San Francisco after I get those parts).  Feel free to DM me about it.  More info on the car can be viewed here (along with a link to a photo gallery): 

The parts I’m taking from the Chamonix are loosely as follows (items with a “?” mean I’m not sure if I need them yet or not, so TBD):

• Beltline trim
• Nose beltline trim
• 10-slat kidney grille
• Rear filler center plate
• Wheels
• Hubcaps/Rings
• Front Struts?
• Front Brakes?
• Steering Wheel
• Dashboard Wood
• Dashboard Trim
• Center Console
• Trunk Linkage
• Heater box?
• Door Cards
• Door Handles/Pulls
• Window Cranks
• Glovebox Lid and Insert
• Pedal Box Parts?
• Switches?
• Steering column trim
• taillights?
• Front turn signals?
• Bumpers?
• Sun visors
• A & B Pillar Trim, grab handles
• Front & Rear windshields?
• alternator?
• Brake system parts?
• Under-hood fluid bottles
• Throttle linkage?
• Wiper arms?
• Driver’s door mirror
• Rear hat shelf?
• Trunk trim panels
• (items may be added...)

 

[NickVyse]

It takes a special kind of bastard to sell a blown engine, but at least you have a lot of salvagable parts and you'll love that hot spec motor once finished. Pretty much what I have in the NK and it's a blast.