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All fluids needed for 02


npdw

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Hi all,
I am in the middle of the restauration of my 02 - my first project. However, I am struggeling with all the new fluids I need. I see some suggestions in the owners manual in the lubrication chart, but I expect there are a lot of innovations in the last 40 years for all these fluids. Also, there are so many versions of these fluids on the internet that I am a little bit lost. 

 

Can you help me in the right direction? Also, what to look out for?


- Engine oil

Coolant

- Brake fluid
- Gearbox oil (manual)
- Steering box oil
- Wheel bearings grease
- Final drive oil

 

Any other fluids needed?

 

Kind regards,

Niels

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1972 BMW 2002 (Verona)

 

 

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Engine Oil - Valvoline VR 1 race oil 20-50. Has high zinc which is good for old motors.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w50-motor-oil-vv211/8020086-p?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqvvLBRDIARIsAMYuvBFqOAqUSAQewGImhCKKT2j-yX5AkTux2YbQIBP4_RGsrOlWmAbx0zIaAt8HEALw_wcB

 

Coolant - Any coolant will do. I generally use the green mix stuff which must be mixed 50/50 with distilled water

 

Brake Fluid - Any dot3/dot4 brake fluid will do. I generally use the valvoline dot3/4 fluid. It has a higher boiling point that generic fluids  but this isnt a race car so any brake fluid brand will do.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-dot-3-and-4-synthetic-brake-fluid-32-oz.-601458/7080002-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=7080002-P&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqvvLBRDIARIsAMYuvBEtwSJ6aISQWIo8cKAOTJpIoXgcpz7Rl0dRwZ95oMLYP4CplsZjjmMaAj_mEALw_wcB

 

Gearbox - Redline MTL

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-Transmission-Transaxle-Lubricant/dp/B000CPCBEG/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1501503519&sr=1-1&keywords=redline+mtl

 

Final Drive - 75w90 gear oil (BUT MUST BE SAFE ON BRASS AND COPPER. GL3 and 4 ARE GENERALLY SAFE. GL 5 IS NOT SAFE)

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-57904-Synthetic-Oil/dp/B000CPCBF0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501503606&sr=8-1&keywords=redline+75w90+gear+oil

 

Edited by Stevenc22

1976 BMW 2002 Chamonix. My first love.

1972 BMW 2002tii Polaris. My new side piece.

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Hi Niels,

 

Looking through the pages of this site you will definitely find lots of recommendations for all of these fluids. Some are even based upon more than just personal opinion!

 

some points to bear in mind:

 

There is some geographic differences in availability between Europe, the States and where I live - Australia. 

 

Pick a familiar brand name from where you are (No point looking for Quaker State oil in Europe). 

 

If it's an oil company you have heard of then they probably make good products. Try their website as they may have a tool to help you choose (from their range). This is the one from my personal favourite Penrite Oils http://www.datateck.com.au/Lube/PenriteAus/

 

Newer isn't always better. You can by all means try any new dangled synthetic engine oil you like but people have long lived motors running Castrol GTX. A big thing these days is Zinc content (or HDDP as they call it). The flat cam followers on our rockers do better with a high zinc oil. 

 

 

When it comes to gearbox oil you have to use a GL4 spec or specifically check with the manufacturer that it's compatible with non ferrous metals. Standard GL5 has acids that eat into the brass components in our gearboxes.  Brake fluid? Don't even think about silicon 5.1 unless you want a load of hassle. DOT4 and change every two years and you will be fine. 

 

Beyond that it's mostly subjective and depends whether YOU think a particular oil makes your gearbox noisier/ quieter / smoother / notchier. 

 

Hope that helps 

 

 

Simeon

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1 hour ago, Simeon said:

any new dangled synthetic engine oil

The new dangled synthetic I use has been on the market since 1972, that's a dangled 45 years!  There are however a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies out now.

A radiator shop is a good place to take a leak.

 

I have no idea what I'm doing but I know I'm really good at it.

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15 minutes ago, worzella said:

I believe GL5 should be avoided in steering box also?...since there are brass bushings all over the inside. Just about to put mine back together 

 

That's correct. I use Hypoid Gear Oil for steering box and diff.

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Quick question. I was assured by the BMW dealer that this rear gear oil was correct for my 1600. It seem to be running rather warm. I can feel heat from the diff in the trunk.  It does say GL-5 on the back of the can. Am I screwed or can I change it without too much damage. I have only put around 200 miles on it since I have put it in. It did however sit in the diff over the winter for about 8 months. Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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1970 Granada 1600 "The 16",  2000 528i Siena Red "The 5",  1968 Mustang 289 Muscle Car Blue, 

1999 318ti M Package Green,  1982 633CSi 5 speed Blue,  2011 550i M Package Black (6 speed manual)

 

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7 hours ago, npdw said:

- Engine oil

Coolant

- Brake fluid
- Gearbox oil (manual)
- Steering box oil
- Wheel bearings grease
- Final drive oil

 

Any other fluids needed?

 

 

   -Windshield Washer Fluid 

   -Gasoline

 

     DISCLAIMER 

I now disagree with some of the timing advice I have given in the past.  I misinterpreted the distributor curves in the Blue Book. 

I've switched from using ported-vacuum to manifold, with better results. 

I apologize for spreading misinformation.  

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46 minutes ago, jscaptura1 said:

It seem to be running rather warm. I can feel heat from the diff in the trunk.

 

More likely you are feeling heat from the muffler/resonator/pipes.  

 

Still, I would agree with you that without confirmation I'd think it might be modern fluid and may not be compatible with 70s diffs.  Maybe someone here can confirm either way.  

 

Upside: it's very easy to replace the fluid.

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Yes it is easy to change!

The Napa oil is what I use in the transmission. Seems to work well. The Kendall is what I used to use in the rear end. That gallon of oil is over 25 years old. That's why I decided not to use it anymore. Could I use the mineral oil in the diff?

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1970 Granada 1600 "The 16",  2000 528i Siena Red "The 5",  1968 Mustang 289 Muscle Car Blue, 

1999 318ti M Package Green,  1982 633CSi 5 speed Blue,  2011 550i M Package Black (6 speed manual)

 

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1 hour ago, jscaptura1 said:

Quick question. I was assured by the BMW dealer that this rear gear oil was correct for my 1600. It seem to be running rather warm. I can feel heat from the diff in the trunk.  It does say GL-5 on the back of the can. Am I screwed or can I change it without too much damage. I have only put around 200 miles on it since I have put it in. It did however sit in the diff over the winter for about 8 months. Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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We do not know if this is yellow metal compatible. Change it to something we know is compatible. 

1976 BMW 2002 Chamonix. My first love.

1972 BMW 2002tii Polaris. My new side piece.

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