2002 Tii for sale NOW

[just66horns]

1 minute ago, lilmo said:

I'd be more wary of one without a snorkel or complete records

What do you consider complete records? Do you think only a one owner car is real and valid? Why be wary of a real car with a snorkel? Yes, it is not a "original" vehicle, but it is real. Are you a collector, investor, enthusiast, or what?

Most people like these cars for the way they drive. If not, you are just an investor. May wall st help you.

 

[kbmb02]

14 minutes ago, lilmo said:

Sadly, we're getting to the point where no Tiis will be legit without documentation confirming provenance.  I'd be more wary of one without a snorkel or complete records than one with a snorkel and confirmation of a nose replacement.  

 

Off topic (but, semi-related): Does a post here contribute to provenance? (chuckle)

If so, here's a photo of a '74 Polaris Tii I'm painting and then selling ... no snorkle - and, to the best I can determine, it's original to the car. -KB

 

 

[Artcop]

I have hydraulic lift envy.

[Conserv]

7 hours ago, lilmo said:

Sadly, we're getting to the point where no Tiis will be legit without documentation confirming provenance.  I'd be more wary of one without a snorkel or complete records than one with a snorkel and confirmation of a nose replacement.  

 

Factoring in the frequent "in-transit" damage done to brand new cars in the '60's and '70's -- especially imported cars, which had multiple legs to their journeys -- it's likely too late to ever know the real history of the survivors, especially with regard to old well-done repairs.

 

When I wrecked my '76 in '78, the damage was minor from my perspective.  The right side of the nosepiece and front of the right fender were damaged, as was the right grille, right fog light, and a fog light guard.  But neither the hood nor the bumper was damaged.  The car was completely drivable.  The insurance adjuster assumed they'd replace the fender and fix the nosepiece.  But when the dealer's body shop got the car, they looked at the cost of a new nosepiece versus the labor involved in correcting the compound curves of a fragile nosepiece and simply replaced it.  I couldn't have cared less about a "loss of originality," and probably preferred a new nosepiece for my two-year-old car.

 

Fast forward to 2013, as I priced the car's first re-paint.  Two very good body shops, developing estimates, planned to repair rather than replace the then-rusted right-front fender: both examined the car carefully and neither could tell that the nosepiece and fender had been replaced 35 years earlier.  Anyone who thinks he can detect every tidily-replaced body panel is fooling himself.

 

So, yes, there is a certain honesty inherent in a tii with a snorkel.  But I'd still extract a snorkel on the wrong car!

 

Below, the '76 after the repair, waiting for my fog light guard to be repaired and for my foglights to go back on!

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Conserv

[lilmo]

8 hours ago, just66horns said:

What do you consider complete records? Do you think only a one owner car is real and valid? Why be wary of a real car with a snorkel? Yes, it is not a "original" vehicle, but it is real. Are you a collector, investor, enthusiast, or what?

Most people like these cars for the way they drive. If not, you are just an investor. May wall st help you.

 

Just would want to know, as a buyer or this car or any other 2002, if the front has been replaced, tii or not.  Not a stickler, not an investor.  Just a tii owner/lover for 25 years who started w/o a snorkel and now have one.  I may have it removed, but if so, it will be fully documented and all info provided to any buyer, just as the accident report and work info for the new (yes, new BMW steel with snorkel, installed by a BMW shop) will be.  Daily drive a tii, as it should be and as I did for 15 years, and you will likely have a snorkel.  Heck, if I yank the snorkel, and decide to sell, I'll even throw in the remnants.

 

But I'm the kind of guy who records every tank fill and every car wash for each of my cars & trucks.

 

 

[just66horns]

[texaco511]

How much are you asking?



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[Conserv]

On 7/23/2017 at 10:49 PM, texaco511 said:

How much are you asking?



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First line of the initial post.... ?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited July 25, 2017 by Conserv

[just66horns]

Here is the only rust spot I have found in the car. View from bottom of tire well. It looks like it was sitting on a wood block for some time

 

 

[just66horns]

Dumb me.. Its the pull thingy that someone pulled!

[wareal]

Is there a clock?

[Conserv]

On 7/29/2017 at 7:56 PM, wareal said:

Is there a clock?

 

The original 2-piece dash appears to have been swapped out for a '74-'76 1-piece dash.  If it doesn't have a clock now, you can always add one, as I did to my '76, when it was brand spanking new.  Photo below is of my '76, with a '74 tii clock.  Don't tell anyone.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited July 31, 2017 by Conserv

[just66horns]

No- No clock. Dash has been changed, and car has been sold, I think. Waiting for deposit to arrive

[Highnote1]

Did you get your deposit? Keep coming back to these pics. That looks to be a great find for some lucky soul. 

[saaron]

On 7/19/2017 at 1:38 PM, Conserv said:

 

I, personally, would remove the snorkel from any tii that I acquired -- just to kill the comments! 

 

 

Hilarious but oh, so, true!

 

Scott