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Badge Restoration Questions


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I found this badge in my stash and want to restore it but it's not a normal enamel badge. It's some sort of porcelain glass/copper combination. No way I can do it at home so could anyone suggest a restoration place that is specialised in restoring cloisonné badges with the same materials rather than plastic or paint alternatives? This is definitely a pre ww2 badge.

 

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Pre-1966, BMW changed to Helvetica to give the roundels a more modern look.

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The technique is known as cloisonne and you might be better finding a local jeweller who may be able to restore it. Pretty sure there is a company in the U.K. that specialises in car badges. I seem to dimly remember that from a Practical Classics magazine years ago. 

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You can do it at home.  [emoji3]
 
I bought something like this second-hand for around $100.  http://www.theceramicshop.com/product/16868/Caldera-S%2C-120V-standard-model/
 
One of the places for supplies:  http://www.enamelworksupply.com/enamelsopaque_1.html
 
Have not yet found a good match for the blue color [emoji20]


Seems like the blue and white are enamel but black is cloisonné. Not sure though.
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I have a couple of these early badges; also in somewhat poor condition. I'm interested to hear what you find out.  I figured I would remove the enamel and paint them with Testors model paint as with most other Roundel restorations, but if cloisonne can be done...hmmmm

 

 

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29 minutes ago, zinz said:

I have a couple of these early badges; also in somewhat poor condition. I'm interested to hear what you find out.  I figured I would remove the enamel and paint them with Testors model paint as with most other Roundel restorations, but if cloisonne can be done...hmmmm

 

 

 

I painted the old badge I had which was the raised letter aluminium badge. But if you have older badge that came with cloisonne, then do not paint!

 

The older or similar looking badge posted by pkchopp on my previous thread (attached link) is not the same badge. His badge is before NK 60s that appears to have same font but in aluminium. The badge I have is brass and copper base (under the cloisonne). Google search indicated brass cloisonne with copper base are pre WWll?

 

 "This type of emblem, sometimes called cloisonné, has a metal base of copper, which is usually plated with chrome, nickel, or gold and is inlaid with enamel colors. By enamel, we mean the hard fired porcelain or glass (it is really a true glass and not porcelain). This kind of emblem was used on almost all cars until the 1940's."

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Interestingly, cloisonne badges were used on Isettas and most pre-NK BMWs...and 2000CS coupes had 'em on the C pillars, while the hood and trunk badges were the more familiar painted aluminum.  Bet they were using up stocks of Isetta badges!

 

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Mike, 

 

I have a couple of the original cloisonné C pillar badges for my 2000CS. They are kinda rough but also have the metal mounts for them. I'd like to use these if I can...

 

Ed

'69 Granada... long, long ago  

'71 Manila..such a great car

'67 Granada 2000CS...way cool

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