What rims are these?

[thorkel]

Just got my hands on four of these, with two centercaps. It says Borbet on the inside. Size 15x7 ET 23.

 

 

[zinz]

Are they 4x98mm ?  Kinda looks like someone was running wobble nuts on them

 

Ed

[TobyB]

..'wobble nuts'- that sounds painful.  Do you need nut stiffeners, or do they settle out on their own?

 

OP, you answered your own question-  they're Borbet, probably originally for an Alfa if Ed's right and they're 4x98,

or an E21 if they're 4x100, based on an et of 22.  Search this board for more chatter- they're pretty popular.

 

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[zinz]

Cleaned up those wheels will look great on an '02

 

Wobble Nuts... wasn't that the name of Toby and Ray's grunge-band? 

 

Here's a google image of a wobble nut.  For use on a 4x98 wheel on 4x100 bolt spacing

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by zinz

[thorkel]

Thanks for the replys Ed. I'll have to get a set of wobble nuts then, if they are 4x98. Have not measured yet.

 

TobyB: I know that they are Borbets, as you creatively pointed out. To specify my question - what kind of Borbets are they?

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by thorkel

[Simeon]

5 hours ago, zinz said:

Cleaned up those wheels will look great on an '02

 

Wobble Nuts... wasn't that the name of Toby and Ray's grunge-band? 

 

Here's a google image of a wobble nut.  For use on a 4x98 wheel on 4x100 bolt spacing

 

 

Uugh. The idea that someone makes those to allow an incorrect PCD wheel to be used makes me feel sick. The uneven forces that will be imparted to those bolt holes on old alloy wheels that may not be quite concentric with the hub... *shudder*

[Conserv]

1 hour ago, Simeon said:

 

Uugh. The idea that someone makes those to allow an incorrect PCD wheel to be used makes me feel sick. The uneven forces that will be imparted to those bolt holes on old alloy wheels that may not be quite concentric with the hub... *shudder*

 

+1

 

Certainly not recommended by any rim manufacturer...certainly not permitted by the German TUV.  I cannot tell you that I know anyone who died as a direct result of wobble nuts, but with 8 zillion 4 x 100 rims in the world, as well as the ability to correctly re-drill most 4 x 98 rims to a 4 x 100 pattern, why take the risk?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited March 5, 2017 by Conserv

[thorkel]

After some more studying of the rims, I think I might have deciphered the information in the center. And the rims are Borbet Selzer 7Jx15H2 ET 23 4x108. To bad these don't fit. Think they would have looked nice.

 

Cheers for all the feedback!

Edited March 5, 2017 by thorkel