NOS Factory Engine

[maharaja]

New Old Stock BMW factory build long block.  Stored in a heated environment Add your ancillaries and have a new engine for a fraction of the cost. Palletized and ready to ship by motor freight to a terminal or tail board drop ship to your garage

Sorry about the phone pictures and will take better photos if you are interested.

$4000 OBO

 

[Vintagedavid]

Including your location to the ad would certainly assist with the possible sale of this motor.

Edited October 15, 2016 by Vintagedavid

[Conserv]

The decoding of this information was included in a BMW Technical Reference Information bulletin, originally shared to this forum by JohnH:

 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=129207

 

Thus,

 

22TI US

5039 A 107

1100 9 056 520

 

Is:

 

(1.) a factory-remanufactured exchange engine ("A" in second line),

(2.) for a U.S. tii from VIN 2761944 to 2782928 ("22TI US"), which means E12 head, generally,

(3.) completed in October ("10" in second line) of

(4.) 1987 ("7" in second line) unless it is somehow 1997 (I don't know how late BMW was remanufacturing M10 engines),

(5.) having serial number 5039 (resets monthly, I believe), and

(6.) BMW part number 11 00 9 056 520.

 

The block appears to have a casting date (right side, between and below the cylinder 1 and 2 freeze plugs, but I can't make out the casting date, which might further narrow the possible remanufacturing date).  Is that possibly an "87"?

 

Notice, however, that the factory appears to have installed an e21 valve cover -- note the drilled boss at the rear -- on a tii engine.  The mis-match wasn't a "problem" from their perspective!

 

GLWS,

 

Steve

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2018 by Conserv

[maharaja]

Thanks for the interest and info. The location is MA.

i have accounts with motor freight companies with discounted rates.

Edited October 15, 2016 by maharaja

[Apfelbeck]

Maja

 I am interested in the engine. Please call so we can discuss.

    Thanks, Dan 704-993-8335 cell

[resra]

That is a NOS TII Engine! Wow! Worth every penny you are asking for if not more! What a find.

[Conserv]

On 10/15/2016 at 11:44 AM, resra said:

That is a NOS TII Engine! Wow! Worth every penny you are asking for if not more! What a find.

 

Do factory-remanufactured parts meet the definition of "New Old Stock"? Maybe they become "Factory-Remanufactured Old Stock", you know, "FROS"! This one is clearly coded "A" for remanufactured rather than "N" for new.  As compared to a new engine, I would expect that it has been re-machined. For instance, the remanufactured engines were generally re-bored and fitted with oversized pistons.  But that doesn’t seem logical in this case if this is a block cast in 1987 and used in an engine remanufactured in 1987 (or is it a 1997 remanufacturing?).

 

My interest in the casting date of the block was two-fold. First, I'm a nerd and I like to verify that casting dates tie into other information we know. And second, I was contemplating what it might mean if you have an engine remanufactured in 1987 and the block has a casting date of 1987. I'm unable to verify the block's casting date but I wondered if BMW might -- under some conditions, e.g., they have NO good used cores in inventory -- use a brand new block in a remanufactured engine. Would that be a new bare block or a new short block? I have no idea. But if the block was new and the head and/or various other components were used, they'd have to market it as a remanufactured engine even though the block was new. Could a new bare block acquire a used crankshaft, pistons, or other components? Just thinking through the possibilities....

 

By the way, I am not a potential buyer here. I believe this is a great find and I'm confident it will find a good home. I'm solely trying to learn a thing or two!

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited April 28, 2018 by Conserv

[spectro28]

PM sent. 

[HBChris]

Did Tiis have a fuel pump blanking plate on the head?  And that later valve cover is not Tii.

[Conserv]

1 hour ago, HBChris said:

Did Tiis have a fuel pump blanking plate on the head?  And that later valve cover is not Tii.

 

They didn't have a blanking plate, Chris: they were un-drilled heads.  The valve cover is an e21 component.  The point I made in my first post was that this mis-match of valve covers appears to be within the range of acceptable equivalency for exchange engines.

 

I'd expect to find an E12 head here, and I'd guess that BMW's rebuilding standards simply used a blanking plate when they had no "tii" head cores but needed to produce a "tii" engine.  They also secured the valve cover with regular hex nuts, not cap nuts, and installed an oil cap that post-dates the '02 era.  So...it's a functional equivalent rather than a precise duplicate of an original engine.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited October 16, 2016 by Conserv

[oldbimmers]

If its an 1987 should say Made in W. Germany, the wall came down in 1989.

[Conserv]

On 10/16/2016 at 0:34 AM, svn2002s said:

If its an 1987 should say Made in W. Germany, the wall came down in 1989.

 

It's certainly true that the wall came down in 1989, but the use of "W. Germany", "West Germany", or "Western Germany" prior to 1989 was not mandated and, thus, was far from uniform: a simple "Germany" was often used on products manufactured in West Germany.

 

This subject has been periodically discussed on this forum, such as in the currently-active thread on square taillight relays:

 

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited October 17, 2016 by Conserv

[maharaja]

Still available. Trying to locate factory paperwork misplaced in a move

[maharaja]

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[CoastalCrush]

On 10/14/2016 at 6:08 PM, Vintagedavid said:

Including your location to the ad would certainly assist with the possible sale of this motor.

 

agreed