engine and drivetrain Ok, Any Tricks on Engine Mounts

[Captain Manly]

Had to replace the engine mount under the oil pan since the other one just disintegrated like cornbread, was able to prop up the engine and switch out the mount.  

 

Now I can't for the life of me, how to get the engine mount plate align back to the 3 engine mounting points.  Was able to re-tighted the  driver side back into place but that is about it.

 

Is there anything I am missing here in doing this? Anything else I need to loosen in order to get the mounts correctly align up?

Thanks in advance-again!!

Justin 

[Buckeye]

If your issue is to line up driver side, go back and loosen driver side first then should be able to get passenger side lined up. Adjust engine traverse limiter bracket 3mm to engine support.

[Captain Manly]

Engine traverse limiter bracket = driver side mount? 

 

What about the gear box support?

 

Thanks

[jimk]

Bolt to the engine block first, to the frame last.

['76mintgrün'02]

41 minutes ago, Captain Manly said:

Engine traverse limiter bracket = driver side mount? 

 

no, it is on the passenger side.

It keeps the engine from being able to move forward.

(there is not much clearance between the fan and radiator)

Edited October 13, 2016 by '76Mintgrun'02

[71bmr02]

Make sure the tang in the driver side mount is in the slot on the subframe bracket, if it isnt you likely have the motor misaligned and the passenger side mount wont bolt in.  If the driver side mount tang is in the slot, try this;  loosen the driver and passenger side mounts.  place a jack under the oil pan with a heavy piece of plywood between the jack and the pan and just take the weight off the mounts.  this should give you enough room to install the bolts in the holes on the subframe.   once all the fasteners are installed let the jack down to put the weight back on the mounts and tighten everything to recommended torques.

 

Gale H

[Buckeye]

+3

[Captain Manly]

Ok, Day Two.

 

Tried the recommendations and the result are now the engine is off both mounts.  The motor is off about 1/2" ahead of the first mounting hole, I tried to pull the motor back to align it up but it moves forward when I go down to bolt it in

 

I don't know what is pushing it around off it's location, looked all over and it seems to be clear everywhere. Should I unbolt the trans brace (5 speed = 2002Haus horse shoe or the exhaust?

 

TIA!

 

Justin 

[jimk]

If your driveshaft is connected, I'd say there is a driveshaft problem.  There should be no thrust to move the engine as described.

[Captain Manly]

Before I removed what was left of the engine mount, there was about 50% left of it which left the engine drop only an inch, wouldn't not made it that much difference to fit would it?

 

[Buckeye]

how are engine and trans supported as you trying change engine mounts. Maybe you need another body to help you to move engine around while you underneath the getting bolts and mounts lined-up.

[Captain Manly]

I have a block of 2x6 supporting the oil pan with towel surrounding it from any sharp edges.  Was thinking of bolting the mounts to the engine and then try to bolt the mounts to the subframe.  Any thoughts?

Justin 

[PaulTWinterton]

This has worked for me.

1.  Make sure the drivers-side bolt is at or above the slot.

2.  Use a guide to align the passenger-side mount, as the engine is lowered.  Before the mount is seated insert the rear allen-head bolt.     Lower more and tighten rear bolt (more, but not completely).

3.  You should be able to remove the guide and replace with bolt.

 

Edit: I just realized that the limiter should be in-place while you are aligning.

 

4.  Adjust limiter to spec and tighten all bolts.

 

Edited October 14, 2016 by PaulTWinterton

[Son of Marty]

I'm with Jimk something is pushing it forward try loosening the trany mount it may be forcing things forward. Also I always start with the mounts loose just hanging on the fasteners on both the engine and body side and every thing should seat with just a good shove as appropriate.   

[PaulTWinterton]

Re-reading your posts I believe you are trying to bolt to the engine after bolting to the subframe.  Not common practise.    Bolt to engine first.

 

Your 2x6 method may be the problem, as you have no way of "rocking" engine to help alignment.  Support from above through the forward eyelet would be best.    There are a few threads on raising the engine from above.