body and interior Pedals! What's your favorite aftermarket setup?

[2002Scoob]

So, I'm starting to bounce around ideas for winter projects on the car, one of them is replacing the somewhat worn carpet, as well as refreshing the pedal box.

 

But, on top of that, I was thinking to make my own set of custom pedals for the car, and perhaps have a few sets made. 

 

About me- I'm 6'3, 215, and rock a size 12 shoe with feet that are on the wide-side.

 

With the factory pedals, I actually have a bit of overlap interference with the gas/brake pedals. This makes heel-toe overly easy, but it also makes day to day driving a bit of a hassle as I find myself adopting weird foot positions to stab at the gas so that I can squeeze the width of my foot between the brake and the transmission tunnel. Perhaps this could be to-do with the fact that the vehicle started life as an Automatic?? I test drove a manual before it and don't remember having such issues. 

 

So, what do you guys like to run for aftermarket pedals?

 

Would there be any interest by members if I came up with something rad? 

 

Anybody have a set of aftermarkets they really enjoyed and would like to donate to the cause as reference material? I'd gladly compensate or return upon completion. 

[Simeon]

Are you thinking of changing the master cylinders, having pendulum pedals or something working off the existing pedalbox?

[2002Scoob]

1 minute ago, Simeon said:

Are you thinking of changing the master cylinders, having pendulum pedals or something working off the existing pedalbox?

 

Honestly, I haven't gotten that far. In all respects, likely something working just off the existing pedal box. But I'm open to other solutions. I've seen several people's threads over the years to improving the factory pedal box.

 

One of my first thoughts I'd like to add is a throw-adjustment to the backside of the gas pedal for pedal bottom-out. With the Side-drafts installed on my car, one sacrifice to adjustability was having to set the throttle limit with the linkage, which left the linkage at an undesirable angle, and the pedal at an undesirably low height in order to not over-extend the throttle plates in the carb.  

 

Ideologically I'd prefer to set the linkage to the desired throw angle and to set Pedal height, then use an adjustor behind the pedal (floor or pedal mounted) to keep from over extending the carbs. Does that sound reasonable?

['76mintgrün'02]

There have been a lot of threads about installing aftermarket/custom gas pedals, most of which are doing away with the 'evil nubs' that the stock pedal snaps onto.  Marshal has a how-to in the articles section.

 

I had to replace the floor where the nubs used to be (due to rust) and never got around to installing another pedal.  Instead, I added a ball bearing to the shaft, followed by a section of aluminum tubing; which then got a layer of rubber hose pressed over it.  I sort of like it this way.

The shaft that the bearings are attached to was about as rusty as my floor and so it is thinner/weaker than a fresh one.  I do have a replacement, but have not put it in yet.  In order to achieve full throttle I have adjusted the lever arm, which attaches to this shaft, outside the box.  I found that the clamp portion of that arm had been squished to the point that the two sides were touching, so I hogged that out, allowing it to clamp tightly again.  It had been slipping occasionally.  Aaanyway, since then, I have come up with a different way to adjust pedal (roller) height; which is to grab the roller and pull back/up.  This bends/twists the shaft and raises the height.  You might try that and see if it helps your situation.

 

I have played with the idea of making a pedal that works on top of my roller, but have not come up with anything I like enough to drill through the floor, for installation.  This was the most recent example/attempt, which you may have seen in a post I added last week.

I have not actually installed it (yet).

 

Try that shaft twist/bend, to raise the pedal height.  You may wind up testing the grip on that lever arm though.  I am happy to say, mine bends before it slips.  I do like it a little higher than stock was set.  Maybe it is the rusty shaft (seen above) that makes mine easy to bend... but it may be worth a try.

Tom

[2002Scoob]

Minty, I do love your tire tread pedal concept, as is your roller. I got a good kick outa the tire especially, haha. But unfortunately in the land of TUV I'm afraid neither of these would ever be allowed. Also it doesn't quite fit the aesthetic I'm going for with the car.

I'm thinking more along the lines of cnc'd alloy, likely hard anodized or powder coated.


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[2002Scoob]

You can see what I'm workin' with here.


I'd like to go with a more performance oriented setup for sure.


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[AceAndrew]

Neat.  I have been working on a performance street/race accelerator pedal for some time and it is nearly ready for production.  I've done several mock ups to try quite a few pedal shapes while tweaking dimensions.  Looking forward to finishing it up.

 

Good luck with yours!

Edited September 4, 2016 by AceAndrew

['76mintgrün'02]

Oh, I did not expect you to go with the tread pedal, I mostly wanted to suggest that you can bend the shaft to raise the height, with whatever pedal you choose to use.  

 

I just read your latest post in your head-thread and learned that you design bicycle parts.  Would the TUV approve of bike tread pedal grips?

 

I really appreciate the masonite/tar/foam transmission tunnel cover (under the carpet), but could you possibly gain some width beside the gas pedal by modifying/removing a section of it?

 

It sounds like part of what you are trying to achieve has to do with clearance for wide size twelves and part has to do with a 'sporty' appearance.  Most of the custom pedals I have seen are larger than stock, which may make the first issue worse.  It will be fun to see what you come up with.

[visionaut]

FWIW, OMP makes two pedal set models that fit our 02s (OA-1020, and OA-1010)...  And bmwpedals.com makes an 02-specific set.

 

Edited September 4, 2016 by visionaut

[COOP]

 

The most beautiful solution I've ever seen was the heim-jointed, Mclaren F1-style creation that Paul Cain engineered for his ex-"3002 tti." Absolute genius and a total work of art. I tried googling for pics of it but couldn't find any and his build site has long since been taken down. I'm sure someone here can be more successful in their search...

 

To my knowledge (and I could very well be wrong), nobody makes aftermarket pedals for the 2002...unless of course you're just referring to pedal COVERS.

 

COOP

[2002Scoob]

1 hour ago, AceAndrew said:

Neat.  I have been working on a performance street/race accelerator pedal for some time and it is nearly ready for production.  I've done several mock ups to try quite a few pedal shapes while tweaking dimensions.  Looking forward to finishing it up.

 

Good luck with yours!

 

Care for a collaboration?

 

1 hour ago, '76Mintgrun'02 said:

Oh, I did not expect you to go with the tread pedal, I mostly wanted to suggest that you can bend the shaft to raise the height, with whatever pedal you choose to use.  

 

I just read your latest post in your head-thread and learned that you design bicycle parts.  Would the TUV approve of bike tread pedal grips?

 

I really appreciate the masonite/tar/foam transmission tunnel cover (under the carpet), but could you possibly gain some width beside the gas pedal by modifying/removing a section of it?

 

It sounds like part of what you are trying to achieve has to do with clearance for wide size twelves and part has to do with a 'sporty' appearance.  Most of the custom pedals I have seen are larger than stock, which may make the first issue worse.  It will be fun to see what you come up with.

 

Haha, bike tread would go with the OURY E-Brake handle for sure. 

 

And yep, your dead on. For me, it's mostly managing the arrangement/spacing between the gas and the brake, and then perhaps coming up with a novel adjustable stop for the back of the gas. 

 

14 minutes ago, COOP said:

To my knowledge (and I could very well be wrong), nobody makes aftermarket pedals for the 2002...unless of course you're just referring to pedal COVERS.

 

These are the two directions... It could either be pedal covers, or complete arms/pedals to replace the stockers. 

[OriginalOwner]

lots of pictures and lots of ideas ......

   https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+2002+gas+pedal&biw=1164&bih=646&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDxp6unfbOAhWCKWMKHR7ZC5QQ_AUIBigB

 

Cheers,

 

Carl

 

[Simeon]

So if we can figure out a way of offsetting the clutch and brake further to the left that would be along the right lines. 

 

What were the constraints that BMW were under that lead them to the current design? They put 'standard' pendulum pedals on the RHD when they had chance. A hold over from the original mechanical clutch?

 

The whole arrangement screams out for rationalisation to me. Glad to have a RHD (even though our master cylinders are 5 X the price ). 

[xferboy]

if you're open to whole sale changes:   http://www.wilwood.com/Pedals/PedalList.aspx

 

(or your favorite brand)

 

You can do what ever you want.

 

I'm similar dimensions (feet a little smaller), and find things a little cramped in the pedal area as well.  I also find the pedals too close for my current steering wheel setup (Nardi, but probably close to factory)

 

If time and parts were free, I'd be thinking to open up the pedal box hole (wider and taller to allow to be deeper), sink a set of bottom swung pedals into the hole with a balance bar and Bob's your uncle.  MC sizes would require math

 

 

[TobyB]

I found that bending the brake slightly TOWARDS the accelerator,

and the clutch some distance AWAY from the brake made a big difference for a size 48 OMP driving shoe.

 

I then covered the stock metal pad with griptex, and called it done.  Stock accelerator, for me.

 

After that, I spent all the money I saved on aftermarket master cylinders, a balance bar, etc, and had very good brakes at the end of things...

 

t