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1 hour ago, conkitchen said:

I see the CL ad is still up, makes me think it was shill'd on ebay, but I may be wrong. Selling price was around $6,500 SOLD on Monday 12/17/18. 

My research sorta showed several discrepancies first of which was the motor is not a 2.0 as should be for an early car. However that fact, the turbo e21 was likely not  offered until 1980, so this car is either a prototype test mule, maybe even Steve Dinan's or H&B personal car (which makes it cooler), or some later conversion circa 1980 in which the stripe kit and accessories where ordered and installed. Although-the H&B system used the Rayjay snail on their proprietary manifold that was designed with the "delta" flange made for the  Rajay unit. This car has a Callaway type four bolt square flange unit. Needless to say, The H&B cars were never certified for CA emissions like the Century system. An older thread on this car back in 2009 had Reeves Callaway comment that the engine is something to consider with this car-meaning it's suspect given the claimed H&B system installed. Me thinks it's an adaption of the Callaway unit with a re-badged H&B placard on the charge pipes. Just my opinion, though this car should also have come equipped with the 3 piece H&B wheels. Nothing I have found mentions the addition of the extra gas tank as part of the H&B offering.   

 

but what do I know. 

 

Diggin the extra info! Here’s some photos I snapped when I went and looked at it. It does have a Hardy&beck cast exhaust manifold on it. Pardon the crap lighting, you can make out the Hardy&beck logo cast into the manifold though. I’ve seen another legit H&B car that also had the “touring gas tank” maybe a coincidence? Maybe an option?  6,500 bucks seems like a fair price. 

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39 minutes ago, Coastalcrush408 said:

 

Diggin the extra info! Here’s some photos I snapped when I went and looked at it. It does have a Hardy&beck cast exhaust manifold on it. Pardon the crap lighting, you can make out the Hardy&beck logo cast into the manifold though. I’ve seen another legit H&B car that also had the “touring gas tank” maybe a coincidence? Maybe an option?  6,500 bucks seems like a fair price. 

 

Given it has the H&B exhaust manifold I'll recant my statement about using a four bolt flange as the delta 3-bolt is what they designed for use. SO the snail likely is a Rajay unit.  

Someone should head over to 4th street in Berkeley and dig deeper into what this car is in reality.  Not having blue plates and now showing a plate # starting with 6 means this car was re-registered in CA starting late 2000 on up to 2011. Likely around 2009-ish since the following first letter is a V so it's somewhere near the end before the number 7 appears. So where was it before then? was it always a CA car? Did it come into the state (hence no BAR sticker) from out of state.  Yet is sports a CA registration. Was it hidden away in a barn until a dealer (Evan) took possession. Would love to see the CA DMV history report. It would clear up a lot of misconceptions around the car's past. 

 

Oh well, I was serious about it until all the unkown issues popped up. It failed SMOG in 2014 with a tampered emissions notation and has $836.00 in back fees so when the seller ommited these facts, it was the deal breaker for me, plus I asked those who are familiar with him and the word was be cautious. 

 

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