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Saw This 67' 1602


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Saw this 67' 1602 over at a friends shop today. vin # 1515006  This car was real straight, & minimal rust, DR side c pillar. He said he was going over it It would be coming up for sale soon. He said that they were taking it to the So.Cal.Vintage meet on Oct.11th Don't know the price yeat. Thought i would share  CALIFORNIA car

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From the pictures it appears to have a lot of the correct early stuff on it:  metal winter/summer air box, round 6v voltage regulator for a generator, flat center air cleaner; football-shaped windshield washer bottle, chrome surround on the instruments, horn ring steering wheel and the small Euro bumper guards...all typical of a '67 built before there was a US specific model.  However, the grilles are later 2002, and the trunk lid is from a squarelight (note emblem on the trunk).  Valve cover should be smooth (no ribs) on a '67, so it's possible that the engine isn't original.   Outside mirror is from a later squarelight, lower trim strips have been added and at least the rear bumper & brackets are from a '73.  Front seats have been reupholstered. The wheels are aftermarket BBSs--look like 14 or 15 inch.  

 

Nothing visible in the pictures that can't be taken back to original pretty easily.  6V 1600s (especially those that haven't been converted and/or re-engined) are pretty rare...

 

mike

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I was confused at first thinking the first image was a different car but now I think it is the same one.  Very odd mix of details as pointed out.  I recently bought 1602 VIN 1516838 and BMW archives say it was produced in March of '67 and delivered to Max Hoffman.  It does have the lower dash chrome and early steering wheel but does not have side marker lights.  In fact all the indications (over-riders, front turn signals, etc.) are of a euro car.  Maybe the marker lights were added to this one later because I don't see how a car earlier than mine would have come with them.

 

These cars present a dilemma in that they are important as the earliest versions of what would arguably become the most important car in BMWs history, yet the values are such that taking this car back to original would make no sense financially.  Still, the basis is there with this one to make a decent driver to just enjoy.

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On 9/18/2014 at 12:21 PM, bimbill said:

... Maybe the marker lights were added to this one later because I don't see how a car earlier than mine would have come with them.

 

Bill,

 

As Mike and others point out, attempts have been made to modernize this poor thing. I'm comfortable opining that no '67 1600-2's came from the factory with side marker lights or built-in headrests (both features were the result of U.S. automotive safety legislation that went into effect after '67)!

 

But just as I criticize, I must confess I made similar changes. The first thing I did to my '67 1600-2 was pop off the original hub caps and replace them with full wheel covers from a later car. And the flush front turn signals and red-center taillights on my beautiful '70 were quickly replaced by bulging (a.k.a., U.S.) front turn signals and amber-center taillights. Yep, the fingers point to me! It was 40 years ago and I believed I was making my "rides" more modern!

 

Steve

 

EDIT: I stand corrected: According to 02Anders, headrests were a factory option, and not simply a dealer-supplied accessory in '67. See entry #18 below.

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I'm comfortable opining that no '67 1600-2's came from the factory with side marker lights or headrests

Steve

The accessory book for 1967 shows the early headrest - it fastened to the top of the seat back - available as an accessory for the 1600-2, not that I want to be totally nit-picking about it. Of course that isn't the same as the one shown on the car.

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On 9/18/2014 at 8:36 PM, kiva667 said:

The accessory book for 1967 shows the early headrest - it fastened to the top of the seat back - available as an accessory for the 1600-2, not that I want to be totally nit-picking about it. Of course that isn't the same as the one shown on the car.

 

Mercedes had them as an accessory but I didn't realize a 1600-2 had them. Was the BMW headrest a factory option or a dealer-supplied accessory?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

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Here's an early 67 in my neck of the woods that also has some interesting things to compare.  Correct mirrors, wrong steering wheel, no side marker lights, ribbed valve cover, missing washer bottle and summer box, original brakes, no headrests.  152XXXX VIN tag, rare Bristol color?

 

What do you think this car is worth as is?  Worth saving? Runs, locked brakes, no visible rust.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Mark92131

 

 

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