steering and suspension Ocap Tie Rod Assemblies

[eric10607]

i noticed these ocap tie rods i bought do not have a hole to put a cotter pin thru to secure the nuts like the originals did. is anyone using ocap tie rods?

[AceAndrew]

It's kind of expected that you use the nyloc nuts that come with them or reuse your original castellated nuts.

 

You can find some closeup shots here ... http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/116731-m20-triple-weber-build-x2/?p=98810

Edited December 23, 2013 by AceAndrew

[roadhog0]

The weird part about that is that my '76 02 when I did the front tie rods at 70k had cotter pins in it. Personally I like cotter pins. But the nylocks have worked thus far... The radius rods though on my car are stover style.

[jgerock]

OCAP tie rods and center link with nylon lock nuts (stuff from BLUNT)

[M3M3M3]

nylock is the replacement for cotter pins in most all auto applications.  

[182kartracer]

I have to disagree. Nylocks are the reason i almost destroyed my front struts. Can't get those buggers off for the life of me. Had to bring out the dremel to cut them off. Will go to double jam nuts instead.

[BLUNT]

I have to disagree. Nylocks are the reason i almost destroyed my front struts. Can't get those buggers off for the life of me. Had to bring out the dremel to cut them off. Will go to double jam nuts instead.

  Why are you unable to get nylocs off?? you sure the ball joint wasnt spinning?? I cant imagine a reason nyloc nuts wouldnt come off as easily as any other nut..

[M3M3M3]

ball joint spinning is my guess.  have to keep upward pressure on it while removing the nut.  same applies when putting the nut on.

 

and if you are taking nyloc's off and replacing with new ones, just torch the top of the nut and it melts the nylon, releasing the lock.

 

i'll take nyloc's every day over double nutting.

[182kartracer]

The ones i can't get off are the ones on the top of the strut. Already took the torch to them. Finally got one off after grinding it and whacking it with a chisel. I have a feeling a PO had too much fun with some red lock tight. A lot of the bolts are a bugger to get off. 

[John_in_VA]

The ones i can't get off are the ones on the top of the strut.

Those studs have splines that don't always hold them locked in the bearing perimeter, allowing them to turn when you try to remove the nut.

[Buckeye]

The ones i can't get off are the ones on the top of the strut. Already took the torch to them. Finally got one off after grinding it and whacking it with a chisel. I have a feeling a PO had too much fun with some red lock tight. A lot of the bolts are a bugger to get off.

Pneumatic gun will take them off in no time. Go slow. I run to similar situation when was trying to replace stock spring. In fact melt nylock on one and still wouldn't come off. Then used air gun. Replace both nylock nuts with new ones.

[eric10607]

dunno i just feel safer having a nut with a cotter pin thru it at the end of my tie rods.

[AceAndrew]

dunno i just feel safer having a nut with a cotter pin thru it at the end of my tie rods.

 

 

Funny, I feel more comfortable getting rid of them in favor of lock nuts.

[dbmw2002]

I always vote for BMW design, even 60s style, them German minds are a whole different shade of gray

[AceAndrew]

I always vote for BMW design, even 60s style, them German minds are a whole different shade of gray

 

So what do you vote when they originally used both castellated and lock nuts?