tires and wheels 15X8 Wheels????

[andy.fulton]

I swear i really tried to search for an answer before i posed a question that I'm sure has been answered somewhere. Anyway i found a 15x8 wheel with a 20mm offset, that i really like. My 02 has IE stage 2 springs with Bilstien HD's. Stock fenders ( no flares), i don't mind grinding or rolling but major mods are not in the budget. Is there any way to fit these? Tire size? Or no chance? Thanks

[LarsAlpina]

As it always is: To be 100% sure you gotta test on the specific car the wheel is meant to be mounted on. Bodyshells a bit different each, mods already done by PO, manufacturer of front fenders (BMW or aftermarket) matters, etc.

 

I´d say for the rear it should work out with 185/45 and a secure lip rolling or maybe slight pressing. Front might get a bigger problem esp. if no vented brakes mounted.

 

Best regards, Lars.

Edited October 20, 2013 by LarsAlpina

[Regerfab]

15x8 are a no go up front without flares or something. i have 0 offset with flares and still barely any room on the front strut. the rear may work but i still think with that offset the outside of the tire is going to be on the body.

[jgerock]

Before you try to fit those wide wheels on the car (especially the front), I suggest you take a drive in someone else's car that has wide wheels.  Unless you have a stock diameter steering wheel, you may find the steering difficult (especially at slower speeds and parking).  

[RayC911]

Rear should be fine with 195, maybe even 205. Fronts won't work unless you go 15x7

[gliding_serpent2]

Is your car for show or go?

If for go, keep looking.

If for show... I am sure you can get it hella flush if you try hard enough. Pop on a bike rack, some 165 tires and you are good to roll. Emphasis on roll.

[LarsAlpina]

15x8 are a no go up front without flares or something. i have 0 offset with flares and still barely any room on the front strut. the rear may work but i still think with that offset the outside of the tire is going to be on the body.

 

-1

 

First I like to mention this: The higher the number of the offset to the positive side the more far the wheel is positioned inside the wheel arch. With offset 20 compared to offset 0 second stands out 20mm more. Offset -20 stands out about 40mm more then offset +20.

 

BBS E50 8x15 offset 8, tyres 185/45 front and rear:

 

Negative camber on front struts with adjustable camber plates, struts height-adjustable with small diameter springs, adjustable camber on rear trailing arms also. Lips rolled, front fenders pressed out (but only a bit - no cutting and adding of a triangular sheet metal).

 

Car belongs to / photos taken by my friend Roland.

 

Best regards, Lars.

Edited October 20, 2013 by LarsAlpina

[cj]

@Lars, sorry to go off topic but, what front spoiler is that?

[crochetg]

Hey everyone! Wow those BBS wheels pictured above are like.... my dream wheels.. Wow!

 

Anyway I was about to make a new topic but then saw this so I hoped someone here might be able to help me.

 

I bought a set of 15x8 Enkei 92 et 25. They are currently sitting in the shop waiting to go on.

 

They do contact the strut on the inside of course so I'm having to wait to purchase spacers before putting them on. What is the final say on what size spacers I need with this setup and where to buy them?   

 I know most want to say "Blaaah go measure it perfectly somehow!" ... but it seems to me that Enkei 92s are a popular 2002 wheel choice so surely someone else has a working setup they could share the details of.

 

**I have turbo fender flares so if there is any poke outward that's all fine in that regard. 

 

I heard someone somewhere say 10mm was fine on this same setup, but when I look on Ireland Engineering they decided that making spacers in standard sizes rather than metric was somehow a good idea for our BMWs. 

 

Anyway, that bit was just weird to me-- had to point it out.    The largest they offer is 3/8'' thick which is like 9.5mm. Now that's close to 10 but I also know things are going to be really tight in there and I remember doubting if even 10mm would be enough to clear things. So I wouldn't want to order these and then find out that sure enough the guy who had real 10mm spacers from somewhere else could run things fine but mine are hitting with 3/8'' .. or something like that..

 

Any help would be appreciated! 

Edited October 20, 2013 by crochetg

[gliding_serpent2]

Anyway, that bit was just weird to me-- had to point it out.    The largest they offer is 3/8'' thick which is like 9.5mm. Now that's close to 10 but I also know things are going to be really tight in there and I remember doubting if even 10mm would be enough to clear things. So I wouldn't want to order these and then find out that sure enough the guy who had real 10mm spacers from somewhere else could run things fine but mine are hitting with 3/8'' .. or something like that..

 

Any help would be appreciated! 

I am no spacer expert, I will say that.  But IE races their cars, and has for years.  I suspect they don't go above 10mm for spacers for a very good reason.  Quoting their site: "I normally do not use spacers more than 1/2” thick. If using spacers, make sure you have long enough studs to have at least 1/2” (8 turns) of thread in the lug nuts."

 

Check this thread.  It is a lot of reading, but there is a lot of good info there from people who have been at this far longer than most. 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/142446-tires-and-wheelrims-fitment-guide/

 

Spacing aside, I am sure you can make your size of rim work, but at what cost?  The above poster has a fully adjustable coilover setup.  Might be cheaper to just get smaller rims, instead of changing your entire suspension and doing bodywork to accommodate rims.  Also consider the stiffness, and thus livability of such a setup.   Show or Go?

[rwheeler]

Hey everyone! Wow those BBS wheels pictured above are like.... my dream wheels.. Wow!

 

Anyway I was about to make a new topic but then saw this so I hoped someone here might be able to help me.

 

I bought a set of 15x8 Enkei 92 et 25. They are currently sitting in the shop waiting to go on.

 

They do contact the strut on the inside of course so I'm having to wait to purchase spacers before putting them on. What is the final say on what size spacers I need with this setup and where to buy them?   

 I know most want to say "Blaaah go measure it perfectly somehow!" ... but it seems to me that Enkei 92s are a popular 2002 wheel choice so surely someone else has a working setup they could share the details of.

 

**I have turbo fender flares so if there is any poke outward that's all fine in that regard. 

 

I heard someone somewhere say 10mm was fine on this same setup, but when I look on Ireland Engineering they decided that making spacers in standard sizes rather than metric was somehow a good idea for our BMWs. 

 

Anyway, that bit was just weird to me-- had to point it out.    The largest they offer is 3/8'' thick which is like 9.5mm. Now that's close to 10 but I also know things are going to be really tight in there and I remember doubting if even 10mm would be enough to clear things. So I wouldn't want to order these and then find out that sure enough the guy who had real 10mm spacers from somewhere else could run things fine but mine are hitting with 3/8'' .. or something like that..

 

Any help would be appreciated! 

 

You will need at least 9mm in front to clear the strut & tie rod. You will need at least 3mm in the rear to clear the strut. Good luck. 

[crochetg]

You will need at least 9mm in front to clear the strut & tie rod. You will need at least 3mm in the rear to clear the strut. Good luck. 

 

 

This makes it simple. So simply order the IE 9.5mm front and rear and be done with it  

[crochetg]

I am no spacer expert, I will say that.  But IE races their cars, and has for years.  I suspect they don't go above 10mm for spacers for a very good reason.  Quoting their site: "I normally do not use spacers more than 1/2” thick. If using spacers, make sure you have long enough studs to have at least 1/2” (8 turns) of thread in the lug nuts."

 

Check this thread.  It is a lot of reading, but there is a lot of good info there from people who have been at this far longer than most. 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/142446-tires-and-wheelrims-fitment-guide/

 

Spacing aside, I am sure you can make your size of rim work, but at what cost?  The above poster has a fully adjustable coilover setup.  Might be cheaper to just get smaller rims, instead of changing your entire suspension and doing bodywork to accommodate rims.  Also consider the stiffness, and thus livability of such a setup.   Show or Go?

 

 

Haha thank you for the guide! This page is great!

 

And I am extremely used to that look / setup. My M3 is the same way, full coilovers camber plates spacer etc. However with this 02 I wont be aiming to get the same "perfectly flush" fitment. Just simply need to clear the suspension components and that's all 

Edited October 21, 2013 by crochetg

[M3M3M3]

This makes it simple. So simply order the IE 9.5mm front and rear and be done with it

depends on what tires you put on them.....if you are putting a real tire that are properly sized for the wheel on them, then you may still have an issue with the tire sidewall hitting the strut....depends on the model of tire.    if you are putting the wrong size tire (too small) on the wheel that leaves the wheel as the widest point then it may work.

[LarsAlpina]

@Lars, sorry to go off topic but, what front spoiler is that?

 

@cj: PM sent.