engine and drivetrain Shifter Rebuild Bush Questions

[worzella]

Hi all - not whining, but the confusion about the proper parts for a shifter rebuild

is huge, including Maximillian, realOEM and the rebuild FAQ. I have a 1975 with

the later "straight rod" linkage as my picture shows. I have three very specific

questions I am hoping I can get some help on, related to letters on pix:

 

A) This is the lower shift section that attaches to one end of the stright rod. In all the 

     parts pictures I CANNOT find a replacement for the decayed plastic "bush" that

     lines the inside.. you can see the outer lip of mine is have decayed. Does this imply

     I need to order an entirely new lower shift section to get a fresh "bush"... If so, the parts

     catalogs seem to list two numbers and two prices.. any idea which is correct for my

     1975?

 

             25 111 205 870         ~$65

 

             25 111 220 213         ~$23

 

Bee) This is one end of the support bracket/bar. In the parts pix I also do not see a distinct

     replacement for this bush, so does that imply I buy a whole new bar/bracket? I see this

     as the part:

 

            25 111 201 238          ~$35

 

C) This plastic bush liner and brass surround was on the OTHER end of the straight rod...

      the tranny side. I do not see a replacement for this, but suspect that it comes with a new

      gearshift rod joint. The parts pix indicate this is the part number for my car:

 

             25 117 503 525          ~$38

 

Appreciate anyone who can give me solid info on these specific parts.

 

Thanks - Randy

[worzella]

From another email I got this reply.. but if anyone has any other comments, please chime in.. also still unclear on which lower shift unit part number is the right one?

 

A.... you need to buy the entire lower lever

b.. you have to buy the entire bar

c..  Get a new shift rod joint and check the actual hole in the rod
coming out of your tranny for egg shaping

[AceAndrew]

Hi all - not whining, but the confusion about the proper parts for a shifter rebuild

is huge, including Maximillian, realOEM and the rebuild FAQ. I have a 1975 with

the later "straight rod" linkage as my picture shows. I have three very specific

questions I am hoping I can get some help on, related to letters on pix:

 

A) This is the lower shift section that attaches to one end of the stright rod. In all the 

     parts pictures I CANNOT find a replacement for the decayed plastic "bush" that

     lines the inside.. you can see the outer lip of mine is have decayed. Does this imply

     I need to order an entirely new lower shift section to get a fresh "bush"... If so, the parts

     catalogs seem to list two numbers and two prices.. any idea which is correct for my

     1975?

 

             25 111 205 870         ~$65

 

             25 111 220 213         ~$23

 

Bee) This is one end of the support bracket/bar. In the parts pix I also do not see a distinct

     replacement for this bush, so does that imply I buy a whole new bar/bracket? I see this

     as the part:

 

            25 111 201 238          ~$35

 

C) This plastic bush liner and brass surround was on the OTHER end of the straight rod...

      the tranny side. I do not see a replacement for this, but suspect that it comes with a new

      gearshift rod joint. The parts pix indicate this is the part number for my car:

 

             25 117 503 525          ~$38

 

Appreciate anyone who can give me solid info on these specific parts.

 

Thanks - Randy

 

First, love the way you wrote everything out.  Its a good case of help us help you.

 

A) Your assumption is correct, BMW doesn't sell just the bush.  However a couple months ago this was brought up, since then we've got a nice little bushing made up that presses in there.  Just need to know the width of the metal portion.

 

bee) That bushing is molded into the support rod, so in theory you'd need a new rod.  However just like "A" aftermarket solutions exist.  AKG makes a little bushing for it and we're just finishing our own little bushing for it as well.

 

C) That might be an interesting one, here's a quote from a past thread.

 

 

I had the same problem with my rebuild kit. My parts were so worn that I would not have trusted the nylon top hat bushings had they been in the package. I decided to make my own out of bronze flange bushings from the local hardware store.

The bronze bushings were 1/2"OD with a 3/8"ID by 1" long with a 5/8"OD by 1/16" flange. They were each cut to .390" for a total of .780" when stacked. This leaves just enough clearance for the washer and clip. They were then drilled out to 25/64" and honed to fit the shafts with a 3/8" DREMEL stone. I JB KWICKed the bushings into the bottom of the shift rod to fill in the play where it'd worn. Should be good and solid now. ($3.50/bushing x 4 = $15.00 at the local Henery Hardware). Definitely $15 worth of fun!

I have put some photos on photobucket, if you are interested. I have many more and would be happy to discuss any details.

http://s1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/TomBrock/Shifter%20rebuild/

You might double check the length required for your bushings, but I'l bet they are similar. Tom

Edited October 4, 2013 by AceAndrew

[rms_sandiego]

AGK sells a bushing set at:

http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog/catalog.php?category=2002%20Shifters

 

It is their catalog #SH02 for the lower bushing for the support arm.

Edited October 5, 2013 by Rob S

[mdh]

First, love the way you wrote everything out.  Its a good case of help us help you.

 

A) Your assumption is correct, BMW doesn't sell just the bush.  However a couple months ago this was brought up, since then we've got a nice little bushing made up that presses in there.  Just need to know the width of the metal portion.

 

bee) That bushing is molded into the support rod, so in theory you'd need a new rod.  However just like "A" aftermarket solutions exist.  AKG makes a little bushing for it and we're just finishing our own little bushing for it as well.

 

C) That might be an interesting one, here's a quote from a past thread.

Any info on the bushing for the shifter? need one and cant find it on your site.

[peterschop]

Any info on the bushing for the shifter? need one and cant find it on your site.

 

You could do what I did and go down to the local hardware store and buy a bronze flange bushing for $3.80. With a little modification,it works nicely for the shift lever bushing. It will also work on the other end of the selector rod for the shift knuckle. 

 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/146919-shifter-rebuild-for-5-speed/

 

In this post I detailed how to modify the bronze bushing.