other Ot: Mb 2.3-16 Landed In My Driveway (For Cd)

[PatAllen]

dont see theses often here....gota love the injection system on thoses lol...

[PatAllen]

^{sick motor}

i bet this motor could fit in a 02....2.3L and 186hp NA...worth thinking about it....

[M3M3M3]

those were cool MB's.  competitor to the E30 M3 back in the day.  less hp than an S14 of same size.......and we all know S14's fit!  

Edited August 28, 2013 by mlytle

[tjones02]

If I were more of a Mercedes fan it'd be interesting to resto mod something like this 220 with that Cosie motor.

http://r.ebay.com/Fp7gmS

Edited August 28, 2013 by tjones02

[saaron]

I've always really liked those cars.  I'm not exactly sure why.  Great to see one.  There is one or two here in Cincinnati that I see occasionally.  

 

Scott

[M3M3M3]

do the MB folks take these engines and stuff them in older mercedes?  this might be cool in an old SL250!

[autobon7]

^{I've always been very partial to those cars but trying to find one that is in good shape is nearly impossible....at least in the St Louis area. Have seen a couple pop up here and there but usually they are all ragged out and way too much of a project for me and my thin wallet.}

[c.d.iesel]

it Was a GREAT car when introduced - but not the performer

that the E30 M3 was. I would want the M-B because of it's build quality,

trick suspension (ditch the Hydralic leveling rear system for

conventional steel spring and shocks), quality interior....

That injection system with all these decades of age and deterioration

is not for the hamfisted shadetree not twister.

It's a shame to see so many listed for sale that

are turds.

 

Happy Hunting

 

p.s. see you at Vintage Lime Rock tomorrow through Monday

Stop by and say HI! down in the Swap Meet, lower Paddock,

space #22 DEMAREST MOTORBOOKS

 

Edited August 28, 2013 by c.d.iesel

[markmac]

Had two of these 16's - they are sweet, as CD suggested more power with an E30 M3, but the MB 16 is smoother and much (much) more solid a car/solid ride (in my opinion and have driven both).  Like an M3 they are prohibitively expensive to work on and parts are becoming more scarce - I did the timing chain, rails and tensioner and it was about $5k <ouch>.  Any car that has 125k miles or more and hasn't had the chains and rails done is going to need them soon, so buyer beware (of course when you are in there you do the oil pump, water pump and whatever else you can get to).  MB no longer (last check) makes the CAT's for the center exhaust and even on their best day they barely pass smog.  With the chassis dyno smog machines here in Cali it is really sketchy getting them through.  When my son had his car totaled (by an unlicensed but insured driver here <go figure that, no license but had insurance>), I gave him my 16v.  He loves it.  He just drove it home from School in Irvine (and just returned), he gets cards left on his windshield regularly with phone numbers in case he wants to sell (the car is totally original with all OEM parts, smoke silver).  My younger son was down visiting him this summer and told me they were in Traffic on the 405 and some dude signaled him to roll down the window (which he reluctantly did) and asked if he could buy they car.  Very hard anymore to find ones that haven't been jacked around with by someone thinking they were going to "improve" the car.  Lots of fun to drive for sure. 

 

www.alpinabmw2002.com

[PatAllen]

thanks MArk for thoses details, i guess the actual owner is not aware of that. i considered for a moment to offer him to buy it but eh...i have 9 cars for now...i am only  mandated to make it run. I already know the eha is not working and the cis plate is completely off adjustments.

regards

[LarsAlpina]

If engine swap on a Mercedes is thought of, why not put a "good" engine in?

 

 

MB W124 with BMW M88 from Hartge/Carlsson.

 

Best regards, Lars.

[markmac]

Lars, not going to argue the merits of an M5 motor - because they are many.  Too much weight up front I think for a 190.  I liked everything about my car, even the self leveling suspension.  After riding around in my 73tii with AlpinA injection and a very stiff Bilstein suspension the MB was a welcome change.

 

When the chain rails/tensioners start to go you seriously can't ignore it (ask me how I know....).  Got real lucky with mine, timing chain actually hopped a tooth on one of the cam gears and then blew a part the rails on both sides.  Took the valve cover off and found little bits of chain rail everywhere.  No damage to the valves but was incredibly lucky.  Unless you are printing money in your basement (or want to stick in another motor with probably the same miles you pick up from a salvage or Ebay), the car is a "donation" at that point.  I'll get off my soap box about 16's now (my secret plan is to get my old car back from my son in another year or two and restore it.......hahahaha

 

www.alpinabmw2002.com

[pierre02ti]

Loved the look since  Victorial Principal was driving one in a tv series a while ago.

 

Would be really affraid to own one with this sophisticated engine!

 

Only Pat can do it!

 

Pierre

[rover1]

i think a sniper would take you out if anybody ever put a MBZ in a BMW or visa versa.