steering and suspension E10 Condor Suspension Bushings Complete

[BLUNT]

If youd like to see the options ...Here are links to the products

 

M10 Solid motor mount set:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Drivetrain/2002-M10-Solid-Motor-Mount-Set-UHMW-p98832.html

2002 Solid complete suspension combo:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Suspension/2002-Solid-Complete-Suspension-Combo-p98831.html

2002 Solid diff mount set:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Drivetrain/2002-Solid-Differential-Mount-Set-UHMW-p98833.html

2002 Solid front suspension combo:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Suspension/2002-Solid-Front-Suspension-Combo-p98834.html

2002 Solid rear suspension combo:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Suspension/2002-Solid-Rear-Suspension-Combo-p98835.html


2002 Solid rear trailing arm bushings:

http://bmw.blunttech.com/Upgrade-Parts-Maintenance-Kits/BMW/1502-2002TII/1502-2002TII-Suspension/2002-Solid-Rear-Trailing-Arm-Bushings-p98836.html

[John_in_VA]

Solid!!

[roadhog0]

Anything for the rear subframe mounts? 

[BLUNT]

Anything for the rear subframe mounts? 

Working on inserts.  I know Ireland has them on the shelf

[jgerock]

Yes - that is MLytle's M2 in the picture.  He recently installed these bushings in his car.

[roadhog0]

Any way to make an insert that fits the whole housing similar to a normal bushing. Not like the IE plug style, something that doesnt use the rubber at all but isn't as solid as, well, a solid mount 

[BLUNT]

Any way to make an insert that fits the whole housing similar to a normal bushing. Not like the IE plug style, something that doesnt use the rubber at all but isn't as solid as, well, a solid mount 

yes  The problem is the expense in recreating the E10 subframe mount housing and cost effectiveness in doing so.

Ive been looking into it for a while  but I just havent had as much time to devote to it as Id like

 I need to get on it...  I was thinking of creating an entire new mount but if others were willing to press or burn the existing bushing out it would be a simpler task

Edited August 15, 2013 by BLUNT

[M3M3M3]

Any way to make an insert that fits the whole housing similar to a normal bushing. Not like the IE plug style, something that doesnt use the rubber at all but isn't as solid as, well, a solid mount 

curious what problem you are trying to solve...the IE insert does an outstanding job of stiffening up a stock mount in severe track use.  if i wanted anything stiffer i would just go to full solid mount.  i don't think i would use any full poly mount on the subframe for street use.

[roadhog0]

curious what problem you are trying to solve...the IE insert does an outstanding job of stiffening up a stock mount in severe track use.  if i wanted anything stiffer i would just go to full solid mount.  i don't think i would use any full poly mount on the subframe for street use.

Not trying to solve anything really. The stock mounts are a little softer than I like even with the IE stuff in it, and yes they made a big difference. I would like something that still isolates a little noise compared to a full steel ones though.

[silence]

Like Steve Mentioned, Solid UHMW bushings are currently in the prototyping stage. They will replace the entire rubber mount. You will have to press or burn the rubber out to install. They will be similar in design to these:

 

[M3M3M3]

the material in the condor ones doesn't isolate much noise.....  it is much harder than the urethane material.  noticeable when driving on street or track.

 

 

bushing material is a range of compromise.

 

 

comfort<---rubber/stock---------urethane---uhmw----heim joints--metal---->track use

 

I have had cars with all five of those options.  there is a noticeable difference at each level. 

 

where are driving that you think the stock with insert is too much movement?

Edited August 15, 2013 by mlytle

[roadhog0]

No where other than back roads rather hard and a lot of daily miles. And why not go urethane there. What am I going to loose? Maybe a little quietness in the cabin, but I may gain a little better handling. Plus anywhere I can keep parts more firmly connected to the car I will.

 

I understand the the whole compromise deal. I've driven many miles on urethane bushing in my car and truck that I put in and many on each with stock rubber. There is a reason I pick urethane or similar in all my rigs. Ease of use, price, and better handling.

 

Even with inserts the rubber has a fair amount it can move especially for and aft if I remember correctly. So why not, can't hurt to try.