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WTB: big FRONT sway bar for a Lemons car


williamggruff

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Found a rear sway bar. Still looking for a FRONT sway bar.

Our Lemons tii is running on stock sway bars, and we're seeing excessive tire wear on the outer tire edges due to body roll and a lack of negative camber. We're unlikely to get a proper camber setup without attracting a huge lap penalty, but it would be feasible to reduce body roll.

For those of you who might be unfamiliar with Lemons racing, it's LOW BUDGET tomfoolery, and relies heavily on half-wit engineering and hacks to make a racecar out of a heap that should otherwise be rusting away in a junkyard.

We don't need, and can't reasonably install, a top-shelf system like Ireland's. We're looking for some big old sway bars. Rusty is fine. Without end links is fine. Cheap is a necessity.

Team members are located on the east coast.

williamggruff

'76 2002 "Verona" / '12 Fiat 500 Sport "Latte" / '21 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road Prem “The Truck”

 

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Grice -

You are in luck. I removed a vintage De'Lan brand 20mm (I think that is the correct diameter) REAR sway bar from the rusty Agave 71. I have the (2) body mounting brackets (De'Lan branded) with urethane bushings but not the end links (they were bent and toasted). The bar was originally blue but now is kind of rusty - easily cleaned and spray bombed to your liking.

I have tried to find out more about the bar on the internet, but have only found trailer hitches.

Maybe we can trade the bar for something in your basement?

Jim

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Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

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Hey William

Thanks again for stopping by after the race to see our 68 car at Monticello. Here is a trick from some vintage racers I know to get negative camber. I have not tried this myself yet but it is said to work. If you remove the wheels and struts etc and get to the naked tower, apparently you can heat the tube with an oxy acetylene torch on the outer side near where the tire would be. With a little persuasion when the strut tower cools off the heated metal shrinks and voila negative camber. Just how much heat to apply and exactly where I'm not sure... but its worth considering as a cheap lemonny cheat!

Kebby

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Hey William

Thanks again for stopping by after the race to see our 68 car at Monticello. Here is a trick from some vintage racers I know to get negative camber. I have not tried this myself yet but it is said to work. If you remove the wheels and struts etc and get to the naked tower, apparently you can heat the tube with an oxy acetylene torch on the outer side near where the tire would be. With a little persuasion when the strut tower cools off the heated metal shrinks and voila negative camber. Just how much heat to apply and exactly where I'm not sure... but its worth considering as a cheap lemonny cheat!

Kebby

Kebby,

That's sneaky ;-)

I think we'll eventually get enough camber by relocating the upper strut bearing inward and backward a bit, fabbing up some camber kickouts for the bottom of the struts, and doing something similar to what you've described. We'll have to build a jig of some sort to at least try to get consistent results for both struts. As an Irishman, jigs are in my blood. As is whiskey, which usually makes this sort of project all the more entertaining.

williamggruff

'76 2002 "Verona" / '12 Fiat 500 Sport "Latte" / '21 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road Prem “The Truck”

 

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