BEWARE SCAMMER: 1972 Euro parting out in Baldwin Park, CA.

[eurokitsch]

BUYERS BEWARE!!!! DONT BUY FROM THIS GUYYYYY

I contacted Paypal about this guy. and guess what )) HES A SCAMMER

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Is this a real request or is this person trying to scam me?

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Notification via PayPal

Date: Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Subject: You've received a payment request

To: Andres Aguilar

Hello Andres Aguilar,

Natalie Lozano requested $65.00 USD by phone, and also noted: Ignition

with key and trunk button. To send money with your phone, visit https://m.paypal.com/sm?t=9RW73282C3949445J.

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[mirror]

hello eurokitsch in San Diego, CA. I can assure i am not a scammer what so ever. You contacted me by email just like other successfull buyer who have paid by paypal & also came to my house and also met my family and paid in person. I just asked you to make the payment but you refused. you Told me to send you a paypal request which I did once and you started from there as anyone can see on my add. I emailed you again and you told me of the problem so I asked you it might be better instead of me sending you a request, for you to just make a payment for your peice of mind and you did not reply untill the following day and asking for another request yet again (which is still pending) I have tried many times to help you out per your request but you continue to hassle me . You could have easily came to my home and picked up the parts yourself but at this point I would not sell you anything for all the problems you have cost.

ALL WHO ARE READING THIS, THIS GUY IS A PRANKSTER. I AM SELLING Y EURO DUE TO A NEW BABY ARRIVING AND NEED THE MONEY FOR THE BABY

IF ANYONE HAS ANY CONCERNS FEEL FREE TOO CONTACT ANYONE WHO HAS BAUGHT FROM ME AND THEY WILL ALSO TELL YOU THE SAME. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, i HAVE MANY ITEMS FROM A PRACTICALLY RUST FREE EURO 1972 SUNROOF. CONTACT ME DIRECT ON MY CELL AT 626-758-0452 OR EMAIL AT MARKLOZANO1@GMAIL.COM

AS FOR eurokitsch in San Diego, YOU ARE JUST ASSED OUT ON THE PARTS I HAVE BEEN HOLDING FOR YOU FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS WHEN OTHER HAVE ASKED FO THEM.

JUST PLAING CHILDISH.

THANKS FOR READING

[mirror]

BY THE WAY, NATALIE LOZANO IS MY WIFE YOU DUMB ASS... LIKE I HAVE TOLD YOU MANY TIMES...

[mirror]

I dont know what the problem is with you. This sounds like a personal vandeta for someone I have never met. All this started because I did everything you had asked me to do. why you could not make the request, I have no idea or you could have drove to my house to pick up parts and buy parts cash. I left that up to you how to handle payment & I was still after the first time. But to now start posting false accusations and slandering me on my add and now causing problems with my wifes account, that is just low. for you being a mechanic, you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope no one goes thru what I did trying to do buisness with you.

[ibjettin]

I bought a part from Mark and had no issues at all. I can say I was not scammed after my PayPal payment was sent to his aol address. He sent the part very qucikly and his communication was very good. There were others that bought parts and even met Mark at his house. So other than myself it seems like there are plenty than can vouch for Mark.

[eurokitsch]

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/p,1003485/#1003485

all i have to say.

[kbmb02]

I would also vouch for Mark (mirror), have had friendly and smooth transactions with him. -KB

[bmw-roundie]

Again, I shall shime in about this PayPal BS in regards to Mark. I sent him money to hold parts (just a deposit) and didn't ask for an invoice, just his email address associated with his account. He told me it was his wifes account (who I met when I drove to his house to pick up my stuff). WHY DO YOU NEED someone to send you an invoice? Purdy easy to ask for their PP addy and just send it. Some people send it as a "gift" so the receiver doesn't get dinged the PP fees. As for the parts I got, they were as described in his original thread. NO NEED to bash the guy. If you had a problem with the invoice he sent you, then I would have just contacted him and kept it "In Haus" so to speak. Slander on a website devoted to us trying to help one another out with our passion for these vehicles isn't cool. In my opinion, it's just plain childish. Just my 02 cents. -J.C. BMW CCA Member for 22 years and counting...

[williamggruff]

Pardon me for asking, but what is it about the request for payment that makes it a phishing scam? I send and receive identical PayPal payment requests on a regular basis, and have never been scammed.

[sislane]

(nt)

[bourkeco]

I've bought from mark a d been to his house! He is a stand up guy!

[KFunk]

So, this whole accusation is based on Paypal's e-mail that 'confirms' that this is a phishing scam?

And Paypal's e-mail was in response to a one sentence statement which didn't state that the person was expecting such a money request from someone?

To summarize:

So, what happened is that

- the seller used a different name on paypal, without explanation to buyer

- the buyer saw it came from a different name than they were expecting, and sent an e-mail to paypal without an explanation of the circumstances (i.e. there was a wrong name, but they were expecting to pay for a part).

- Paypal thinks this guy got this money request out of the blue, completely unexpected, and makes the incorrect assumption that this was a scammer, and copy/pasted their usual response. There's tons of scammers out there that do similar things, so it's probably a fair judgement.

- Everyone thinks paypal is omniscient and has a full record of all scammers in the world, but they do not. Paypal makes mistakes.

- Buyer trusted the e-mail from paypal, and went on a tirade, without any evidence other than the paypal e-mail

- Then it degrades into childish insults

Sound about right?

Solution: Be adults, people. Use some common courtesy and logic.

[LimeySteve]

KFunk , the voice of reason , well done sir .

[sabot67]

I vouch for Mark also.

Situational awareness and the application of a little common sense would have prevented this accusation.

Do you really think that someone would go through all the trouble to upload several pictures on the thread (pictures which are consistent, I might add) and then, after doing so try to scam you out of only $65? Further the PayPal request listed the exact parts for which you had asked and came from an account with the same last name of the person with whom you were doing business. Apply a little common sense please before you accuse people of being criminals.