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Can anyone tell me if the door gaskets, quarter windows and gaskets need to be removed to properly install a headliner? Hopefully just removing the pinch molding will do the trick but I wanted to check just to be sure. My car is at the body shop and will need the windshield and rear window removed to do some minor rust repair so I thought this may be the ideal time to do the headliner. However, if the above gaskets need to be removed, I'll probably pass as I don't want to risk the gaskets being damaged in the process.

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the front and rear windows are the biggies here, properly installed the headliner goes under these seals, so the time to do this is now, how often will u have the glass out to do it right?

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Since the windshield and rear window will already be out, my biggest concern here was the door seals and quarter window seals. If either or both have to be removed, I didn't want to risk either but particularly the door seals being damaged in the process. The previous person that responded seemed to suggest that both needed to be removed for a successful installation. I don't have the car handy to check if it's possible or not. If anyone has installed a headliner without removing these seals, I'd like to hear how it went.

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I did mine last summer, the door gaskets and rear vent wndows can be on the car. There's a lip the headliner folds around running past the door and side window and has pinch trim pushed over it. That lip runs all the way down to the rear base of the side vent window. I didn't take pics when we were doing it but just took these so you can see what I'm talking about.

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And the very rear of the headliner that runs along the top of the rear glass is different on different cars. Pretty sure its sun roof vs non-sunroof. Non sunroof has a metal lip the headliner wraps around, and with the sunroof the headliner gets covered by the glass gasket. My headliner wouldn't stay glued on the rear lip, so I used pinch trim to keep it in place.

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Front glass

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Hope that helps.

Scott

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removing those seals isn't that big of a job- the door seals only have to be removed around the top, where they are held in place by a lip, you can leave them hanging where they are glued. they are a massive pain to put back in, until you get the hang of it, then you'll wonder why it was so much trouble before. the rear window seals are probably way easier if you remove the glass. i didn't when i replaced my headliner, and therefor frightened all of the neighborhood children screaming at it, while putting it back. the point is, i don't think you have to worry about damaging the seals, so much as preparing yourself for solving a frustrating puzzle, and honestly the window seals weren't the most frustrating piece of the headliner puzzle...

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