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Does anyone make a complete turbo kit for he m10 engine?

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I'd like to install a turbo on my 2002 as I'm rebuilding it be a Turbo replica. I've been doing some digging, but I haven't found any company that offers a complete turbo kit with the turbo, pipes, etc. I'm not looking for anything too powerful. Basically, I feel like I can't put the 'turbo' stripes on the side and badge on the back unless there really is a turbo under the hood! That, and I love the sound of a waste gate :)

Any help would be much appreciated!

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eurotrash Grand Master

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I saw a turbo and piping kit once, ebay maybe. You have to convert to EFI and a tunable ECU for best results. No one offers a total package that I have seen.

I once suggested to Karel Jennings that he should build MS/EFI/Turbo wiring harnesses for 2002, not sure if he ever decided to try.

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Nope.

And my take is that if you're going to do it,

might as well go EFI, and do it right.

The original turbo left a bit to be desired in the

drivability

department.

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Dang, not the answers I was hoping for. Oh we'll, thanks for the quick responses everyone!

Callaway's first turbo was for a BMW 320i circa 1977. That would make it the 2.0L M10, although I believe it was the fuel injected version sold for the American market.

Those are no longer being made, of course, but they show up from time to time on ebay, etc. The 35 year old technology is also certainly out of date at this point.

There are undoubtedly better systems out there these days, but, FWIW, this one was originally designed for the M10. Period correct, and all that. Just a thought.

Callaway started in the town next to me back in the day, and they are still there today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callaway_Cars

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Yale Collaborator

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Nope.

And my take is that if you're going to do it,

might as well go EFI, and do it right.

The original turbo left a bit to be desired in the

drivability

department.

t

Actually that's a total misnomer. They are a gas to drive. Course because of the funky KKK turbo rebuild situation I haven't actually driven mine in 3 years! But when it was driving I thought it was incredibly cool, all the issues people say are drawbacks are actually character. In the curves your job is too keep the turbo on boost or close to boost and then you can control how the boost comes on, it's a balance and a dance and very enjoyable. And in a straight line, put you foot down, wait....and wooooosh. Beautiful.

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By the way, let me add that the last thing you want is to go the route of the original KKK turbo. Try to find some one who has built a turbo using modern parts and is not trying to sell it because they are unhappy with it.

I'm sure someone out there has done this and ended up with a good and usable car. It seems to me that a lot of the aftermarket situations though are chasing problems - but perhaps I'm wrong about this and there are people who have done this and are 100% happy with what they ended up with.

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My kkk was beyond the pale when I took the car to Korman for rebuild. We spoke with people in GE, NE, UK and US who all said the Garrett was the hot set-up. Simple bolt on. Bought the very incomplete kit from Jaymic who said they had never sold a kit but had only done them in house. As it was Ray Korman doing the build they felt he could do the tuning. Simple bolt on my ass. The complication was the fueling with the k-fisch. It got done but real money to do so and a few more mods than intended. Once the dyno showed the issues we went back and asked about the tuning issues to all who said, go Garret, and found that none of them had ever dynoed the motors they were building. Sure would like one of those;(

On my test ride with Ray as he was putting the car through its paces ;) he offered that he did not understand why over the years he had not build more M10 turbo motors as the inherent strength of the motor was an excellent platform. My car is a great drive and I think that with the cost of S14 re-builds a turbo is a great alternative. Someone who makes a good turbo motor with the correct efi fueling can, I think, make some dough. Pricey, but a hell of a ride!

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Hi Jack,

You are one of the folks I am thinking about when I wrote the above. One thing I find about this board and perhaps all BB's is that everything gets over simplified. For instance if you really detailed what you went through with your car (and how much it cost) people would be amazed.

The fact is every time I have explored solutions to my turbo issue, I get a story of a so called alternative solution that in fact was a huge woop ass of experimentation and blind alleys. And then the owner sells the car.

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Exactly! That was the second situation I was thinking about when I wrote the above. Based on this article that I read here at least a year ago I went to Comp Turbo Technology in San Dimas, as they did, to solve my turbo issues. I asked Justin there if he could build me a turbo that matched the specs of the original KKK unit. He told me it would be no problem. I said I have talked to folks who tried to make a more powerful turbo that in the end caused a lot of other complications and so I really wanted them to keep things as stock as possible.

As it turned out though what I ended up with was not usable, nor actually close to the original KKK. I believe they had a lot more trouble sorting out their turbo situation then it might seem in that article.

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