Identification help - CR gearbox and electric sunroof

[oz_tom]

Hi Faqers!

Hoping you can help me with the following images to ID what exactly this is as it seems to be a relatively well equipped little car with some cool options! I've done a little bit of research and unfortunately i don't have any castings or numbers to share, however:

1) Gearbox is a 5 speed in close ratio dogleg format from what I'm told - Visually it looks to have the slave in the same location as a regular 2002 4 speed, with the extra piece at the rear signifying the 5th gear. Is it a fairly safe bet to assume 235/5 Getrag? or potentially an E21 CR box? Its extremely hard to find an underside image of any CR box for comparison sake!

Have not tested to see if LSD yet.

2) Electric sunroof which I understand is a rare option and usually only on a later car (this one is a 75)?. Unfortunately I don't have the interior side view of this (bummer!), however i'm told the button to operate movement is on the roof, and the install looks to be factory judging by the exterior pics. Can anyone compare to their manual winding roof / electric roof car and post pics for comparison?

3) Car has been 'restored' in the past - paint is relatively new so I expect the restorer 'individualised' it some what on their way. Was a tii clock something the dealer often fitted if a customer asked? Car also has Recaro seats which look to be the E21 Recaro style without leg extension (this style is more common in Australia than the style with leg bolster). I seem to recall when Richard Stern (I think) had his white squarie tii, there was an interior pic of his spotless interior on his bmw2002.co.uk site - which when he sold the car (?) was removed - does anyone still have these pics saved somewhere and could upload?

Hopefully able to update images on this when car arrives

Thanks All,

Tom

[Conserv]

Was a tii clock something the dealer often fitted if a customer asked?

I installed tii clocks in my '76 and a friend's father's '76 when the cars were brand new. You just need the clock and the wiring harness and it's indistinguishable from a factory installation. It's so easy I'm surprised more owners haven't done it: but I've only seen a handful of these non-tii installations over the years.

Regards,

Steve

[Preyupy]

If it is a "dogleg box" then with the Slave cylinder mounted in that location it is a 2355 gear box. These use the Porsche style syncros, they are also rather pickey about the oil you use (non Hypoid) if you want the syncros to live. I also recomend you be a bit gentle with it, they are not the strongest gear boxes and if you start to man handle the shifter and rush the syncros you are going to spend a lot of money fixing it.

[Mike Self]

the USA didn't have the CR gearbox as it wasn't part of the EPA approved emission package. A few slipped through for either one of Max Hoffman's "friends" or were ordered overseas directly from the BMW factory and not through Hoffman's dealership overseas delivery. This is how Carl Nelson's US spec 2002 convertible came to be.

Apparently electric sunroofs were a rare option on US spec 2002s, and most of 'em I've seen (and that's only a handful) were on 75 and 76 cars--probably after BMW AG took over US distribution in April 1975--we also got cloth seats as an option then--previously Hoffman ordered 'em all with vinyl interiors.

I suspect that electric sunroofs were not common even on non-US spec cars, but they were available, along with a lot of other options that never appeared on our cars. So count yourself lucky--that 75 has two desirable options!

mike

[Preyupy]

Getting the CR gearbox past Max was a lot easier than getting a 2002 with the steering wheel on the right side. I know we could order the 235 geabox through the parts department but could not get them installed on new cars delivered from the factory that way. I know of a couple of Tii's that had "dealer installed" CR gearboxes but that was because the owner knew what they were doing and had a dealer that was willing to do the work before delivering the car. In both cases the new owner left with a CR box under the car and a 4 speed and long front driveline section in the trunk.

[what?]

Looks like a nice find, where did you find this one? I have my eyes on the usual places (carsales, eBay, gumtree) and didnt see this one

[oz_tom]

Looks like a nice find, where did you find this one? I have my eyes on the usual places (carsales, eBay, gumtree) and didnt see this one

Gumtree mate