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Yes I am a 2002 noob. I am learning daily about my car....working on things slowly. This cannister/hose has puzzled me for months. What is it for & what is with the hose that goes nowhere? Is it disconnected from my Weber or is it some kind of overflow?

(I don't have any manuals or books yet, and I am a chick, so please be gentle)

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment!

-Karen

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That looks like a vapor recovery (charcoal) canister on the fender well and that hose was most likely originally connected to your air cleaner for a closed system.

I would shorten that hose at the canister and plug it with a golf tee/screw or remove all the emissions related equipment.

Jim Gerock

Ruby Red 73tii built 5/30/73 "Celeste"

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

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It appears I have a charcoal cannister in the trunk as well....but it is the same plastic material as the VDO washer tank. Is this trunk cannister a necessary item or no?

trunk canister is for fuel tank fumes... I removed mine and routed the vent hose through the trunk floor. As for the underhood smog stuff, that was removed years ago. Now I must go hug a tree to repent...:)

MJ

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Both the front metal canister (charcoal or another media inside) and the rear (hollow) plastic tank are for the fuel vapor recovery/expansion system. In later model 2002's they are used together to help prevent fumes from escaping into the atmosphere.

Even the later air-cooled VW Beetles had fuel recovery systems. My '71 had (2) charcoal canisters - one under the front hood and another under the RR wheel well with a steel connection tube that ran along the right side floor pan. As with the 2002's, the braided vapor hose aged then leaked fumes everywhere.

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Jim Gerock

Ruby Red 73tii built 5/30/73 "Celeste"

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

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I have both the braided line & the skinny metal line it appears. And here is my trunk system. So is it safe to remove them? The fuel tank vapor line does appear to be connected to the rear charcoal cannister.

I am replacing my fuel tank soon, either with a stock style tank or a custom made fuel cell.

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I have both the braided line & the skinny metal line it appears. And here is my trunk system. So is it safe to remove them? The fuel tank vapor line does appear to be connected to the rear charcoal cannister.

I am replacing my fuel tank soon, either with a stock style tank or a custom made fuel cell.

You could remove everything and vent the fuel tank/filler nozzle thru the trunk floor just like the European cars did (and the early 2002's).

If you decide to remove the rear tank, hold on to that spring clip. Most cars are missing it and the tank may fall off that mounting bracket.

Jim Gerock

Ruby Red 73tii built 5/30/73 "Celeste"

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

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The fuel tank vent goes to a plastic expansion tank in the trunk then to the charcoal canister under the hood, from there it goes to the air cleaner or carburetor so that the fumes are burned in the engine (drawn in by the vacuum). Someone has removed the original air cleaner and put a cheap K&N filter box on there so now there's nowhere to connect it. That said, please don't remove this system, it's not "harmful" emissions equipment, venting your tank to the atmosphere is downright idiotic and blocking it off (and not venting it) is more than idiotic. I'd either figure out a way to reconnect it or install the original air cleaner via the Weber adapter and connect it like it's supposed to be, along with the valve cover vent. If the charcoal canister looks old and nasty, replace it with a new one, it doesn't have to be a 2002 canister, look around and buy a cheap one for an E21 or some other vehicle as long as it fits.

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You could remove everything and vent the fuel tank/filler nozzle thru the trunk floor just like the European cars did (and the early 2002's).

Please don't do this. It's irresponsible and stupid. I know driving an old car is cool and all but try to give a slight fuck about the environment and don't vent your fuel tank to the atmosphere when even in the early 70's they didn't do that anymore.

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You could remove everything and vent the fuel tank/filler nozzle thru the trunk floor just like the European cars did (and the early 2002's).

Please don't do this. It's irresponsible and stupid. I know driving an old car is cool and all but try to give a slight fuck about the environment and don't vent your fuel tank to the atmosphere when even in the early 70's they didn't do that anymore.

You have said your peace. Whenever possible, I would rather keep everything stock on these cars. My 73tii has all the hoses/tank connections and I plan on keeping my '69 "closed". The picture posted above of my previous VW did show that I kept the major components of the recovery system (even with a high performance engine).

Jim Gerock

Ruby Red 73tii built 5/30/73 "Celeste"

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

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If you burn those fumes in the engine, you get POWER! That's gasoline that's being dump overboard if the recovery system is ripped out. Is that too hard to understand.

A radiator shop is a good place to take a leak.

 

I have no idea what I'm doing but I know I'm really good at it.

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Wowza I go for a drive and come back to quite a discussion.

OK so keep system...gain power. Sounds good especially since this car is going to see track time. I guess I should look into a replacement can for the engine bay since the rusty bucket in there doesnt look like it has much life left. I will see about replacing the braided lines with something more modern.

And I know my Weber needs a new air cleaner. I would like to find the setup mention that has the fitting for the current "hose to nowhere".

I appreciate all the replies.

-Karen

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