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SCR Pig Cheeks $8,000 to $10,000

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I got a quote on a set of metal pig cheeks from SCR for $8000 to $10,000.

I was sick. WOW I can't believe they are so pricey.

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...everytime you ask, and the longer you wait - the prices

are sure to keep rising

go with cheep cheek F-glass ones

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Sounds like a bargain to me considering how much skill and work is involved.

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+1 with Andrew. The serious work and skill that goes in to a set of hand formed STEEL flares such as theirs cannot be underestimated.

If I told you how many hours it took to make this (300SL) wheel housing piece (with mallets, hammers, and an English Wheel), you wouldn't believe me. $8-10k is certainly fair for what he does.

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A LOT of effort goes into the flares. It's not just the flared metal but the work that goes on under the flares that you don't see.

Here are mine being fabricated. It all starts with a flat piece of sheet steel, then the magic happens...

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I know what my next career will be. Thanks

Better get in fast while there is someone to train you. Those kinds of skills are dying out.

You can still get hand formed panels made in India, some of the British classic specialist suppliers get them made

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As previously stated a lot of labor (basically ALL labor). Of course at that price point you are doing it for the "love" of the car and what it means to you and not any thought of getting a return (positive that is) on your investment.

www.alpinabmw2002.com

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Agreed, hand fabrication is a dying art and in today's economic climate it's going to be expensive. I really dig the fact that Matt and crew are (relatively) young and keeping this type of work alive. Really cool guys. SCR's work is definitely not for the shallow pockets.

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I know of a fabricator in Piru, CA (Ventura County) who is able to fabricate the entire car if he has the patterns, but at what price ? I've witnessed him fabricating half the car (Usually a Porsche 356 or vintage aluminum body Ferrari / Maserati by Zagato, or some other exotic owned by some eccentric character from Hollywood. The 2002, though, was the BMW for the masses, the Proletariat or thr Lumpenproletariat - "that element of the Proletariat which can be bought off with sausage and wine". He is cheap as far as fabricators go, $75/hr. The last time there, he raplaced the front apron on my car and fabricated new sheet metal to replace a rusted section under my radiator, all for $500.00. I supplied the NLA front apron. I thought it was a deal. He is meticulous, and his work is perfect. But, in my opinion, to spend $8,000 - $10,000 on metal flares / wheel arches for a 2002 is a bit crazy in today's economy. For well under $8,000-$10,000 I'd just buy the sheet metal and vintage English Wheel and fbaricate the damn thing myself. Or get the fiberglass kit for well under this price. I've seen a Schnitzer style kit for all four wheel arches for about $500.00, recently. I'd like to see the 2002 remain the affordable car for the dirty unwashed masses, or those of us who can be bought off with sausage and wine, and not destined for ownership by only the few eccentric Pebble Beach Snobbydoos or some designer of overpriced women's undergarments from Hollywood.

Slavs

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Its certainly cheaper to go fiberglass, sure. But if someone wants metal, then that is obviously a different ballgame.

With all due respect to your guy in Ventura County, until I see a final bill and the 2002 with the work done... its just another story of "I know a guy...."

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The fabricator in Piru is well known among some of the concours car collectors. Piru is located in the historic Santa Clara Valley where there is little development, if any, and where the small towns such as Piru, Filmore, and Santa Paula seem frozen in the 1950s. Hismetal fabrication shop is a glimpse back in time. The cras in the shops are just rolling shells, most often mounted on dollies. I helped him move two Porsche speedsters, one of them an original Carrera, to make room for my 1600. My modest car was also in the company of real snobs sucha rusted Iso Rivolta, a Lamborghini 3500GT, and a Jaguar "E" typeand a bunch of Austin Healey's. I witnessed this fabricator making a door skin for the Iso, complete with the complicated body creases etc. It's incredible what people with these skills can do. There are other fabricators in Ventura county who are also experts in this craft. One of them built a Porsche 550 Spyder from the original plans, minus the engine. They really understand how to work with metals including aluminum.

If I can only convince him to produce door skins for our 02's at an affordable price.

Slavs

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If price is an issue, I think you need to focus on fiberglass parts. Labor is expensive, and it's not fair to blame a craftsman if it takes time to make a quality piece out of metal. Over the past 6 years I've been learning metal shaping, and have built myself the necessary tools like an English wheel. My goal is to make parts for my M2. At one point I thought of making parts to sell, but quickly realized that with the time required, the parts would be too expensive for most people with a 2002 budget.

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When Matt was doing the Turbo I was in the shop one day looking at his pig cheek flare. I told Matt I could make one of those. He gave me the raised eyebrow, quizzical, incredulous look. I went on to say that I could certainly make one of about anything. However, the idea that I could make a second facing the other way that would match is, well, doubtful, to say the least.

If I had to price them it would be $150 for the first one and $50K for the second;)

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My guess is that that price quote is somewhat finished. Like here is my 2002, I'd like metal flares on it please. The actual fiberglass flare might be cheeper but in the end, if you want it done right the cost won't be that much different. I know.

John

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