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1967 1600-2 : Some Assembly Required


dasfrogger

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There's just something about this car...couldn't let it go. After stripping paint and finding LOTS of bondo and a very wavy rear 1/4 panel I keep questioning why I'm working on it instead of the really clean 1973 shell...

Hope to have some more updates tomorrow! Hope all is well in Colorado!

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Love the enthusiasem, these cars will keep you coming back for more.

Since it is an early car, " I ( and others) " would love to see it kept an early interesting rare color. Such as Florida ( very light mint green) Bristol ( battleship grey) Derby ( Darker Grey) Tampico ( a darker grey brown) or Caribe ( medium Blue) Manila ( More yellow than Sahara)

Agave is a later color and would not look right in my opinion.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/content/view/32/32/

Good luck and keep it looking as early as possible. You will kick yourself later if you don't. ( Now getting of my soap Box)

Joseph

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Love the enthusiasem, these cars will keep you coming back for more.

Since it is an early car, " I ( and others) " would love to see it kept an early interesting rare color. Such as Florida ( very light mint green) Bristol ( battleship grey) Derby ( Darker Grey) Tampico ( a darker grey brown) or Caribe ( medium Blue) Manila ( More yellow than Sahara)

Agave is a later color and would not look right in my opinion.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/content/view/32/32/

Good luck and keep it looking as early as possible. You will kick yourself later if you don't. ( Now getting of my soap Box)

Joseph

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We've had a little bit of this discussion on the RGB Facebook group. The original color was Sahara per the BMW archives. According to mike self Sahara was not a color used on this early of a 1600-2, so that makes it a little more unique and another reason to not change it. Plus it'll make my life a lot easier prepping for paint - if I miss a spot no one will know!

That being said I still love agave.

Who knows what'll happen... Anyone else have an opinion? Sahara or Agave?

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Today is the 67's 46th birthday. Instead of getting it something special, or even spending some time with it I headed to Indy to meet Ben Yonce and check out his 02's. He's got some beautiful beautiful cars and a fantastic workspace. It was inspirational to see what he's done - I can't wait for my 67 to get to that point too.

I'll be headed to the shop again tomorrow to do some more sanding. Maybe if I remember to bring my camera for once I'll have a real update!

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jake......i've done a lot of 1600/2002's in my day....dont give up on that '67! it could be quite a car if done right! you dont see them, like.....EVER! i think its so cool that u found one in decent shape. i know how it is....the more you uncover....the bigger the hill to climb gets! and ...sometimes it seems like way to much work....but hang in there!!! you'll have a rare jewel in the end!

you mentioned something about a 1973 that you also have. you are one lucky guy!! i'd keep the '73 for another project! that....in my opinion...is the BEST year for the 2002! hang on to that one if you can. solid shells for that year are VERY hard to come by pal....unless you pay big bucks! i would love to have a '67 AND a '73 again....you are very lucky....trust me.

keep up the great work! love the pics! love the photo bucket! great detail!

good luck!

hendi

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almost forgot........i have to agree on a period-correct paint color for that '67. look into it. there are a few that are quite nice. i myself painted my '72' in 'florida' green....(its more like a key-lime pie green....very light). since i'm in florida....it was kinda cool, too. besides....the car doesn't get too hot in the summer since its such a light shade.

but....it's entirely up to you. you can paint that '67 any color.....as long as the bodywork is straight.....and it will still be cool!

good luck!

hendi

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Thanks for the kind words! I'm certainly glad I chose this car to restore - its pretty neat. I did some more sanding tonight and still haven't found any bad rust - just wavy rear quarter's from the accident. My goal is to pull the front fenders by next weekend so we'll see what damage the sunroof drain has done.

After doing some thinking I'm planning on keeping it Sahara. I'm still not wild about the color, but I think it's the best choice to make everything look right. I'm sure that some sahara would be peeking out if a color change was done. Plus since I'm changing the drive line I'd like to keep as much stock as possible.

I actually have two 73's - One is a 73 Auto (my first 2002) that was a family friend's for 23 years before becoming mine. It still runs and drives but is getting tired. It is next in line for some lovin, but won't get as comprehensive of a restoration as the 67. The Flared 73 shell is in amazing shape and I'll certainly be sad to see it go, but I will probably need to sell it to complete the restoration on the 67. It would be really cool to keep around to build into a track car - but that'll be for someone else to do.

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Not a lot of exciting stuff going on. Lots of time spent sanding, sweeping dust, and sanding again.

My roof is so shiny!

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Gotta hit the underside too...

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During reassembly should i try to find a similar foam to replace this old stuff?

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View from the rear seat.

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Time to dry Ice the 46 year old tar on the floor.

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Even got my wife to help!

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Worst of the floor rust - need to do a patch on the floor in front of the pedal box - pretty typical rust.

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Now you see em....

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Now you don't!

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Way less rust than I expected. Really good shape!

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Jake: I hadn't looked at your thread for a while. So, Sahara wins out! I wonder if it was special ordered in Sahara or if 1600-2's began to come off the line in this color by then?

Very impressive what you have done.

I like this one very much. I told Karl that I wanted to buy it, but unfortunately there was no way that I could. I drove it once and had a blast. I was in the lead with Karl chasing me in my '02. He was surprised how aggressive that test-drive became!

'75 Sahara 2002 Dieter (sold)

'14 Blazing Red Metallic Mini Cooper

'73 Sahara 2002 Franz

 

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Thanks for the kind words Jim! I can't believe how much has happened so far, or how much is still left to be done.

There really is something about this car that is special. I wish I would have been able to drive it while it still had the twin solex's, those got sold before I took ownership of the car. It was a very different drive than my 02 - it was temperamental and a lot of work to 'successfully' drive but was a totally different feel on the road at speed.

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It's been about three weeks since I've had time to get much of anything done at the shop, and it was nice to get back to work!

I put the flared 73 shell up on jack stands yesterday in preparation to remove both subframes. In my hurry to get it done, I remembered the hard way to crack the lug nuts while the wheels are still on the ground. Whoops.

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After dropping the car back down, loosening the nuts and raising it again I got to removing the front subframe. Either I had forgotten how easy it was to remove or the bolts weren't caked in 40 years of crud but I had it out in about 10 minutes.

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FRESSSSSHHHHHH. Ironically the silver bolt on the very left of the picture was a standard size bolt - not metric. I'll have to remember to change it when I reinstall on the 1600-2.

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The front suspension has all new everything - Urethane bushings, IE rebuilt steering box, IE coil over struts w/ adjustable camber plates and what looks like their 2.5'' racing springs. No idea what the spring rate is though. As awesome as this coil over setup is, I have no need for it so it's for sale to fund more of this build. Let me know if you're interested!

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Despite all the new parts on the front subframe, there is a lot of surface rust already. I think I'm going to have to disassemble it, blast and POR15. I need to swap the ireland swaybar for the drop down type to clear the M20 anyway.

Next came the rear suspension. It's got all new everything too, but has similar surface rust issues.

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NEW Bilstein sports (which are for sale as well), poly mounts, Ireland sway bar, new bolts, rebuilt e21 3.91 LSD...well it was at least.

When I went to go get this car from Chicago the diff locked up on the way back, in the middle of traffic. Long story short it was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life and we had to disconnect the half-shafts so I could continue to dolly trailer it back to kentucky. I've been waiting to get the cover off to take a look at the carnage inside for over a year. As I expected, not a drop of Diff oil.

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The gears don't look torn up, so I'm wondering if there's an 'easy' fix. I've attached a video of the diff below. tail still turns a bit. sides feel locked. Diff experts please chime in... {click below to launch}

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After all that fun we took apart the doors to prep them for sanding/blasting/painting. I've never taken a door apart so this was a big learning experience. I'm really looking forward to refurbing all the bits inside.

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Finally, a teaser for next week. After much debate I picked up an Auto Twirler Rotisserie from their factory in Indiana. This thing is pretty dope. We took some measurements and are preparing to fabricate some mounts and get the 1600-2 loaded up.

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The plan for next week is as follows...

Fab rotisserie mounts (mounting via sub frame mount points)

Bolt and balance 1600-2 on rotisserie.

Spin car 360 degrees.

Celebrate.

Fix rust issues in floor pans by welding in good metal.

Commence stripping paint and nasty from undercarriage.

It'll be a lot to do, lets see if it can get done!

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Had the day off from work and I was non stop running around.

Went to American Metal Supply Company here in Louisville to get some steel to fab the body to rotisserie mounts. Really friendly folks! It was a little more expensive than I expected but still not too bad. Took about 4 hours and they had everything cut to my length's and bundled!
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After that I stopped by the shop doing my engine rebuild. They had been slow this week and gotten some more put together. The power steering pump is coming off, but I'm leaving the AC on for now - need to figure out how to retrofit AC into the car. I'm pretty happy with how things are looking. Of course I'll be picking up a shiny new alternator, starter motor and thermostat housing. I'll have some parts sent off to the powdercoater's too. Now for some Engine pictures....
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Also brought over the IE shorty Headers I got from a fourm member so they could be sent off to the coaters with the valve cover, intake manifold and various brackets.
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Sorry for the low quality iphone pics! I'm excited about getting the car up on the rotisserie this weekend. Once I get it off the rotisserie the motor should be back so I can test fit motor and trans then send off to paint.

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