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Selling Inquiry 1976 - Seattle vs. San Francisco

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I have a 76 that I purchased in Seattle earlier this year for ~$6500. I had it looked at by a couple different folks who told me it was appropriately priced. I am moving to San Francisco in December and was curious if anyone had any thoughts on if I would be able to get a better price on the car in SF vs. Seattle. If I were to bring it to SF I would get WA collector's plates for the vehicle prior to moving (no smog or tabs necessary under WA laws - in CA cars after 1975 require smog check).

Also, I have been told prior to selling I should steam clean the engine - thoughts?

Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,

J

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Vehicle info:

1976 BMW 2002 - White w/Sunroof

154,000 miles (confirm)

New rear brake cylinders and emergency brake cables

New Bilstein HD shock absorbers and new rubber mounts front and rear

New steering rod and ball joint linkages

New suspension trailing arms and bushings front and rear

New rubber body mounts

Very low mileage tires

Stainless steel braided brake lines front and rear

Reupholstered rear seat

New front brake rotors and calipers

New fuel lines, filter, oil change and filter

Other items:

Recaro style front cloth seats

Alpine CD player, detachable face.

Front and rear Blaupunkt speakers

3rd brake light added

Clean chrome trim, front grille & all badges, 2nd owner replaced

Original BMW toolkit

Original BMW 2002 owner’s manual and sales brochure

Extensive service and parts records from original owner to current indicates:

Factory engine replacement at 75,000 miles installed by dealership.

Converted from automatic to five speed manual 320i transmission by dealership.

Weber 32/36 DGV carburetor upgrade

Additional underbody rust preventative coating when originally purchased

Extras:

Wolf Car Cover - evolution fabric

2 oil filters

Set of points and condenser

BMW 2002 Haynes repair manual

BMW 2002 restoration guide

1st owner for 20 years

2nd owner for 1 year

3rd owner for 14 years

Current owner - always garaged.

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I am sure the car will be easier to sell in Seattle because of the Smog laws in CA. If the car has ALL of the original smog equipment installed and working it might be ok in CA but if it has been removed you will spend more than it is worth to find and install it all before you can sell the car down there. Unlike WA where there are parts of the state that have smog inspections (and they only go back 25 years so your car is exempt) and other parts that don't. CA does visual and tailpipe tests on ALL cars 1976 and newer state wide!

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Preyupy -

The reason for going down with WA collector's plates would be to potentially bypass CA smog tests and tab fees going forward - the new owner would just have to record the sale in WA and keep the collector's plates.

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They would have to register it in WA using a CA address, or leave it in your name with your old WA address on the title. I doubt that is going to go over very well with potential buyers. If they get caught with an un registered car in CA they will loose the car. I just don't think you should plan on the buyer to be willing to cheat the state of CA, they still have to insure it etc and the local cops will start wondering about this old BMW with WA plates after they have seen it over and over for months.

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"that 1976 is a $1500 car, tops, in California.. "

You wouldn't be located in Humboldt by chance?

As a comp. I spoke with a guy yesterday who just sold his 76 last month in San Jose with an estimated 300K mi. on it for $5K off C-List.

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While not really able to talk dollars, I would guess that you're likely to get more for your money in any other state but California. Regardless of whether the car has collector plates in WA, if a CA buyer wants to title it in CA, the car will have to pass both the visual and tail pipe smog tests. The vast majority of CA buyers won't want to deal with it. I would sell it up here. Offer it in Portland as well.

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more pictures would be helpful. It appears to be worth at least $5k from the 1 picture and description (not that I would ever buy a car that way). A pic of the engine bay and better view of the fenders and rockers... (for rust/bondo) would be helpful.

Seems to only make sense to sell it in WA.

Scott

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Is there classic/collector car registration in CA that avoids the ordinary emissions rules for '76 cars? If so, what are the limitations on mileage or use? Obviously such a car could not be a daily driver, but many of our cars are not daily drivers.

Just curious (and uninformed),

Steve

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To my knowledge a CA classic car must be at least 39 years old and go through a much more strict and costly process than in WA. In WA it seems to be fairly straightforward with the process and obtuse when it comes to when exactly the car can be driven and for what purposes - "special excursions" okay. Also, WA cars only have to be 30 years old.

WA: http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/spcollector.html

CA: http://www.onlinedmv.com/car-registration/california-dmv-antique-vehicle-registration.html

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To my knowledge a CA classic car must be at least 39 years old and go through a much more strict and costly process than in WA. In WA it seems to be fairly straightforward with the process and obtuse when it comes to when exactly the car can be driven and for what purposes - "special excursions" okay. Also, WA cars only have to be 30 years old.

WA: http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/spcollector.html

CA: http://www.onlinedmv.com/car-registration/california-dmv-antique-vehicle-registration.html

Got it! Thanks.

Steve

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