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OK... Cylinder head gasket


Simeon

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Given my previous post I am starting to get together the knowledge and parts I need to solve my head gasket issues. Just interested at the moment but figuring it is more and more likely.

OK gasket set. I have been quoted $250 AUD by a local parts specialist. Surprised as I was to find someone local to sell me parts (usually Jaymic, W&N and Blunt) I am wondering what you would pay for a full head gasket set in the US?

Anything that anyone recommends that I do / replace while I have the head off? Don't plan on spending a fortune as I plan on rebuilding the whole thing next year but equally won't put anything obviously bad back in.

Any tips for getting the camshaft out without any special tools?

I am expecting to need to get the head skimmed. Is there any disadvantage to just going for the 0.5mm maximum or should I be more circumspect? We all want a bit more compression ratio, don't we?

I have the Haynes manual, the Blue Book and McCartney's book. What I am after is wisdom that I can't get from these excellent books but I am sure can be found from you excellent people!

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Carbs: They're necessary and barely controlled fuel leaks that sometimes match the air passing through them.

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I appreciate your point but most of the BMW dealers near me show no enthusiasm for a customer with a 38 year old car. It's not their fault, there is a real culture of poor customer service here in Australia. Some might argue that the guy with the old car may come in and buy a new 5 series, so let's treat him with our standard levels of high customer service. That just doesn't happen here. Can I expect any better with my infrequent orders of cheap parts? Not cheap either but I would pay extra for quality service.

I have found a complete lack of anyone nearby who is knowledgeable and gives a sh1t. The one guy I have found is way on the other side of town but even he admits it is not worth it to him. He is always offering me crazy prices on stock he has but can't sell. He can order basic maintenance stuff but for anything more complex I have to go overseas. It's not that I don't trust this guy with his $250 quote but I am sure I have seen people describe on here in an old post (see I do use search) getting a gasket set for $18.

Anyway, appreciate any help I can get.

rtheriaque wrote:

Carbs: They're necessary and barely controlled fuel leaks that sometimes match the air passing through them.

My build blog:http://www.bmw2002faq.com/blog/163-simeons-blog/

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head gasket set for $18? That doesn't sound right.

Look at these people, they seem to have very reasonable prices for this task:

https://www.autohausaz.com/membersonly/login.aspx?sid=20vidwilq2rtqe55zuykn5rw&redirect=https://www.autohausaz.com/membersonly/vieworder.aspx?sid=crxt1y2rh234ai45vsrlmmbk%26oid=313625

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there is literaly TONS of very cheap head set, all good brands too. no japan knock-off, but nos stock most of the time.

see item # 370458817414 you cant beat that !!

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Down-under Sim - the $250? sounds like a price for a 'COMPLETE ENGINE'

kit ? which would be somewhat in line with that price ?

maybe you also need to confirm if it's a 'HEAD SET', or, 'ENGINE SET'

A ENGINE SET would be a good idea anyway,

your car will need a oil pan gasket, crank seals, timing

cover gaskets anyway - sooner or later

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rock auto??

1973 BMW 2002 2.0L 1990cc 121cid L4 1BBL : Engine : Engine Kit Gasket Set Wiki Price

FEL-PRO Part # FS21212B1 FULL SETS (FS) are for upper and lower engine work combined, usually a complete overhaul.

Premium valve stem seals incl.

for $155.....

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couple things to consider here. first off, i would get the new style valve guides. however, then you gotta get the new style valve stem seals. the old style seals are crap, and will not last long. with that in mind, i always recommend getting the e30 318i head set, because it will come with the much nicer 1 pc exh manifold gasket with heat shield.

http://www.bmwmobiletradition-online.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=1374&mospid=47315&btnr=11_1062&hg=11&fg=50&hl=3

the only thing missing will be the carb base gasket, but if you remove the intake with the carb still attached, no problemo. it will also have the new style valve stem seals in it. pn 11 12 1 734 142 for the head set. there are no more full engine gasket sets available, there might be some very old stock on full sets, but they will have the old style valve stem seals. this head gasket set would sell for about 82.00 here in the us.

the lower end set, 11 11 1 734 114, should have the new design rear crank seal in it(11 14 2 249 533). this seal has no tension spring in it, and relocates the seal lip to a different part of the crank, not the worn part. it is an improvement over the old(1 706 785) seal. with it riding on a new surface, you should not have any rear main seal leaks for a very long time.

another consideration is freight. we have started using the us postal service for a lot of the overseas shipping, if the package meets size requirements, we find that freight cost is easily half that of ups. there are different customs requirements, so be prepared.

lastly, dont forget to attach the front upper timing cover to the head when you get it cut

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Hi Im in Victoria , you can do heaps better than that I can send you head gasket only for about $30. Get you head straight edged find out if it needs to be skimmed , if so check minimum amounts on Forum Search, it may have been done before.To remove cam , use search again , pretty straight forward really , a lot of the time you dont need a full upper gasket set anyway.

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To remove cam , use search again , pretty straight forward really , a lot of the time you dont need a full upper gasket set anyway.

Having attempted to remove a cam a couple months ago (head off) and not succeeding, I'd say it's not so easy. Depends what you have for tools and time.

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