Jump to content
  • When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

Question about steering while on jackstands


jgerock

Recommended Posts

While replacing my calipers, I turned the steering wheel side-to-side for better access. I noticed it didn't go full lock for some reason. The ball joint arm and strut was hitting the control arm when the suspension was drooping (on jack stands).

Is this typical?

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That doesn't sound right Jim. When I did my front brakes, I don't remember having that problem.

Maybe it's a Tii thing?

Sounds like too much play in something to sag that much.

Ken

FAQ Member # 2616

"What do you mean NEXT project?"

-- My wife.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you have "bolt in" replacement lower ball joints? If so, are they mounted from the bottom of the control arm or on top?

Proud member #113

The rides!

www.cardomain.com/ride/792851

www.cardomain.com/ride/792793

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sounds like someone installed the ball joints from underneath the control arm, instead of on the top. That's how I install ALL of mine. If the bolts should shear, at least the ball joint is held captive in the control arm - retaining at least some steering and control of the car. For me at least, the inability to turn the wheels lock to lock when on jack stands is a small price to pay for peace of mind.

YMMV

Paul

Paul Wegweiser

Wegweiser Classic BMW Services

Nationwide vehicle transport available

NEW WEBSITE! www.zenwrench.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought about the ball joints, but if I'm not mistaken, they are held to the mount by rivets - not nuts/bolts. Will look again today.

The steering is fine when the car is lowered to the ground.

This is an older picture (car on ground)

pics7112010015.jpg

Older pic when springs/struts were replaced last year

pics7112010001.jpg

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hrmmmm! I'm mystifed! it certainly looks like you have the orig. riveted ones in there, from the photos at least. You've never replaced them? In 30+ years? Tough little buggers, I guess!

I'm curious now. Let me know what you discover, Jim!

paul

Paul Wegweiser

Wegweiser Classic BMW Services

Nationwide vehicle transport available

NEW WEBSITE! www.zenwrench.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would have to assume most (if not all) suspension bits were replaced back around 2002 when the car was restored in MD. Will look thru the receipts folder again.

Ball joints are in good shape - tie rod end boot on right side torn from contact with E30 bottlecap wheels that were on it for a short time.

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looks like you can't go to V@V. No o2's allowed with original ball joints. Didn't you get the instruction manual for attending the event from Charlie Sheen? And thanks for my new(old) 325xit. Mr Riblett did good reconnaissance on it. The wagon is mint.

Doug M ny country

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looks like you can't go to V@V. No o2's allowed with original ball joints. Didn't you get the instruction manual for attending the event from Charlie Sheen? And thanks for my new(old) 325xit. Mr Riblett did good reconnaissance on it. The wagon is mint.

Doug M ny country

Couldn't I get more that $ 50K for my car with original ball joints that are still good?? See you in NC.

Charlie Sheen reportedly paid the DC Police over $ 450.00 for a high speed (80+ MPH) escort from Dulles Airport to his "event" in D.C. What a wack job.

No pics of the new Touring Doug???

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jim,

Driving as much as you have with/on original ball joints has gotta be that somebody up there is looking out for you.

Serious safety concern. It is only a matter of time.

Second owner 72 Tii (he will be 65 this year and this is his 5th or 6th 02) is at the shop for front end refurbish. Everything was original. It is also his daily driver. Original paint, interior, etc.

R

Parts inquiries: 2002haussales@gmail.com FAQ Supporting Vendor  www.2002haus.com www.bmw2002registry.com  Free Your Mind - Remove the Chains and Think 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wasn't able to look thru my folder of old receipts last night. Will contact the PO who worked on the car and then figure out when I can tear the front end apart again. I'm starting to wish I had a lift in my garage the car is up on stands so much.

Should I not drive the car?? - I know it is a loaded question.

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wish I had a lift too Jim - for all of my cars.

I'd drive it. If we sat around and fret about what's going to fail on 30+year old cars, some of us would never get on the road.

That being said - if there was doubt, I'd order some new ones. In fact, you've scared me so much, I'm thinking about sending Steve a note.....

Prime time to do it while it is still up on the jackstands.

Ken

FAQ Member # 2616

"What do you mean NEXT project?"

-- My wife.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I e-mailed the PO who rebuilt the car. He quickly replied they were original and that the rubber boots were in good shape and there didn't seem to be any wear issues with the joints so he didn't replace them. I am amazed after 158K miles and 38 years the original ball joints are still in good shape.

Admittedly, this car didn't see much of the road for quite a while, but I am driving it on a regular basis (not a daily driver).

I will order the new ball joints this week. My wife gave me a parts gift certificate to the local BMW dealership for my b-day last month. Good timing.

Now - should I go ahead and replace the lower control arms at the same time? All the bushings were replaced in 2002 - they look OK.

Jim Gerock

 

Riviera 69 2002 built 5/30/69 "Oscar"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The control arm bushings should be fine.

Don't forget to safety wire the special bolts that hold the steering arm to the bottom of the strut.

BMWCCA #2762
72 2002/71 2002ti, 67 2000CS, 2x 72 3.0CS
86 635, 2x 05 330Ci ZHP, 
'11 Corvette Grand Sport

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Upcoming Events

  • Supporting Vendors

×
×
  • Create New...