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Hey guys/gals new guy here looking at entering 2002 world and looking for some advice please...

I am a car guy and have had many toys over the years but never a 2002. couple of sprites/midgets, 914, GTI's, and a few Miatas. currently driving a tastefully modified 94 Miata.

A buddy of mine has 76 2002 he is looking to sell due to some economic concerns and he has offered it to me at what i think is a decent price.

I have been looking through the forums and have found plenty of great info here.

I went to see the car last week, and it has its plus's - and minus's...

It is a 76 Mintgrun Sunroof car. He bought it 5 years ago from Ohio. Rebuilt engine, Weber downdraft and 5 speed conversion. He replaced the front fenders with OEM, repaired some rust on the front valance and some other minor spots on the car. Partial respray from the beltline down to maintain as much original paint as possible. Interior was redone by the PO, nicely. My friend daily drove it for a few years and then parked it.

I drove it, it runs great but has a slight whine from the tranny. I dont think a big deal but it may need attention.

As for rust, i have found some. minor bleeding at the driver side shock tower, some soft spots in the lower rockers - the worst at the pass side front jack point. pedal area and floor seem solid. minor rust at the bottom corners of the windshield.

Well, he offered it to me for $3000. I am thinking it may be a good buy to drive for a while and in a few years bite the bullet and tear it down for a resto. I feel like I cant lose, But would appreciate feedback from the forums.

Thanks for any feedback! hope to join the 2002 club...

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Hey guys/gals new guy here looking at entering 2002 world and looking for some advice please...

I am a car guy and have had many toys over the years but never a 2002. couple of sprites/midgets, 914, GTI's, and a few Miatas. currently driving a tastefully modified 94 Miata.

A buddy of mine has 76 2002 he is looking to sell due to some economic concerns and he has offered it to me at what i think is a decent price.

I have been looking through the forums and have found plenty of great info here.

I went to see the car last week, and it has its plus's - and minus's...

It is a 76 Mintgrun Sunroof car. He bought it 5 years ago from Ohio. Rebuilt engine, Weber downdraft and 5 speed conversion. He replaced the front fenders with OEM, repaired some rust on the front valance and some other minor spots on the car. Partial respray from the beltline down to maintain as much original paint as possible. Interior was redone by the PO, nicely. My friend daily drove it for a few years and then parked it.

I drove it, it runs great but has a slight whine from the tranny. I dont think a big deal but it may need attention.

As for rust, i have found some. minor bleeding at the driver side shock tower, some soft spots in the lower rockers - the worst at the pass side front jack point. pedal area and floor seem solid. minor rust at the bottom corners of the windshield.

Well, he offered it to me for $3000. I am thinking it may be a good buy to drive for a while and in a few years bite the bullet and tear it down for a resto. I feel like I cant lose, But would appreciate feedback from the forums.

Thanks for any feedback! hope to join the 2002 club...

Hey Jim! I've also shifted my focus from Miatas over to 2002s. I've got a '92 with shocks/springs/sways, etc. and autocrossed it for several years. It can still outhandle the 02, but it's just not as much fun to drive as the 02 for numerous reasons. The Miata is actually my winter car now, and I'm waiting on the rust to slowly eat it alive. Since you mentioned Ohio being a former home, you should know that we have horrible rust here. That's why my '92 miata is almost ready to collapse in a pile...

As for the mintgrun car... it sounds like a handful for nothing that special... That's a high price to pay for something with potential deadly rust and numerous 'issues'. You can dig thru the archives here for more detailed rust/bodywork analysis methods. If you end up getting attached to it enough to want to restore it (which will happen), then you'll end up spending a crapload more money and time than you would with a solid starting point. I'd try to knock a K or two off the price and use as a fun daily driver with little commitment, or start shopping out west for a decent starting point. You can get rust-free 76's for dirt cheap around California, since '76s are the only year that aren't smog-exempt (and its a huge hassle to ever get one to pass emissions).

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Thanks guys for the honest feedback...unfortunately what i expected to hear...

What value would you place on this car? It seems to have a number of good parts, almost a car that needs a shell? Thinking i could drive it for a few years and look for a Western car that needs interior and mech work?

I have a soft spot for cars that need a home...a weakness i guess. luckily over the years i have been able to find pretty much rust free examples of many of my cars. My current Miata has a touch of rust in the lower rear rockers but i have repaired before and had good luck. They seem to all succumb to this one particular design flaw.

Thanks again for the honest feedback. And if anyone knows of a nice clean 02 that needs a home let me know. doesnt need to be a roundie or tii, just a simple clean later 75/76 02 is fine. thanks!

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Thanks guys for the honest feedback...unfortunately what i expected to hear...

What value would you place on this car? It seems to have a number of good parts, almost a car that needs a shell? Thinking i could drive it for a few years and look for a Western car that needs interior and mech work?

I have a soft spot for cars that need a home...a weakness i guess. luckily over the years i have been able to find pretty much rust free examples of many of my cars. My current Miata has a touch of rust in the lower rear rockers but i have repaired before and had good luck. They seem to all succumb to this one particular design flaw.

Thanks again for the honest feedback. And if anyone knows of a nice clean 02 that needs a home let me know. doesnt need to be a roundie or tii, just a simple clean later 75/76 02 is fine. thanks!

Just be careful with taking mercy on every car, as you have to draw the line somewhere....

http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_16484631

Where are you located? If you're far from any source of decent 02s, and you don't want the hassle of traveling to get one, and you have some spare cash, then it *might* be worth it only to you just to get the car for like 1500 and run the crap out of it. A driveable 02 is better than any boring car, and negotiating a long distance purchase would be a real hassle.

As for parts in it, the engine might be decent, or it might be a sloppy rebuild. Who knows? It's a gamble. 2002 engines aren't that expensive at all, so a freshly rebuilt engine doesn't add on all that much to the price, unless you have a well-detailed description of the rebuild from a reputable 02 shop. But if it runs good for you, then its worth what you want to pay for it. The 5-speed is a good upgrade that would save a lot of trouble, but if its whining... then it's not exactly an awesome upgrade. At least everything is in place (shortened driveshaft, mounts, linkage) to swap in another one when that one dies.

Anyways, I'd try looking here for some other options here (set your location)...

http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cp&itm=bmw+2002&loc=&fil=&ys=&ye=&ps=&pe=&pgs=100&submit=++++go++++

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Kfunk -- good article! i make sure all of my toys at least run on their own power when i bring them home...

i live in Southeast PA, about an hour out of Philadelphia. so i know all about road salt and damage it does to old cars.

i may consider the car for a lower price, i am still not convinced it is ready to go to the scrapyard. it presents itself well and runs great, so it would be a fun driver for a while. i have seen much worse pics of shock towers and rust issues on the forums.

but, there is a bugeye i know of in a garage that needs rescuing......

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