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I recently bought a set of 6x13 wheels here in the Netherlands. They have to be refurbished, see pics. I will check the dates on the rims later this week.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljz1981/8936059078/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljz1981/8936059002/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljz1981/8936058840/in/photostream/

Greatly appreciated, L.J.! Assuming a single 6x13 rim is shown in your two close-up photos, and it bears both the "Mahle" and "36111112514" markings, these photos verify that: (a.) Mahle and F.P.S. produced versions of the 6x13 rims (as they did with the 5x13 rims); and (b.) the Mahle and F.P.S. versions of the 6x13 rims used the same part BMW part number (unlike the 5x13 rims, which bore different part numbers).

Great find! Treasure them!

And, yes, I'd love to hear the dates of your rims.

Regards,

Steve

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Dear Steve,

 

I checked the wheels for the production dates but haven't found anything stamped on the rear of the wheels. Have to say that there is a lot of dirt caked on that area, but some rubbing with a sandpaper did not reveal any dates/other markings. Might have to wait for the wheels to be cleaned and painted. Will let you know if find anything.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Laurens

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Dear Steve,

I checked the wheels for the production dates but haven't found anything stamped on the rear of the wheels. Have to say that there is a lot of dirt caked on that area, but some rubbing with a sandpaper did not reveal any dates/other markings. Might have to wait for the wheels to be cleaned and painted. Will let you know if find anything.

Best regards,

Laurens

Thanks, Laurens,

The first attached photo shows the date on the rear of a Mahle 5x13 rim. The date shown, "22" over "74" or the 22nd week of 1974 (or, May 26 through June 1, 1974), is cast into a small circle on the rear of the webbing. (There are lots of other markings on the reverse of these 5x13 rims, which I have not yet investigated!) The second, third, and fourth photos show a Mahle 6x13 rim. The date shown, "29" over "76" or the 29th week of 1976, also cast into a small circle on the rear of the webbing, shows that production of the 6" version continued after production of the factory turbo had ceased.

Enjoy your new rims!

Regards,

Steve

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Conserv's information on the 2002 wheels is correct.

 

I have a master table with part numbers, weights, etc. for all three sizes

 

5 x 13, these were options for normal 2002's.  Mahle and FPS were the two OEM suppliers.  I have a number of FPS, the casting numbers are from various dates in 1974 and 1975.  I have some Mahle as well, they range from various weeks in 1974, 1975 and I have one from late 1976.

 

They have been NLA for at least 20 years, I have checked with various friends I know who work at BMW AG.

 

5 1/2 x 13.  These were optional for the E21.  Part numbers are less well known, you don't find them listed in BMW systems any more.  You need microfiches to find the numbers.  I don't have any of these.

 

6 x 13.  These were for the 2002 turbo.  Mahle was the OEM, also NLA part for many, many years.  I have some in my garage but would need to look at them to provide casting dates.

 

If someone has more questions, post away.  FPS and Mahle soup dish or bottle cap alloys can be found, but it's not easy.  I can help, drop me a line.

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5" x 13" soup dish / bottle cap wheels (for 02 cars)

 

FPS  is BMW 36 11 1 114 231

Mahle is BMW 36 11 1 112 755

Both have ET28 (28 mm offset) and weight is 5 kg

No status in BMW AG for the Mahle, last reference for the FPS was dated July 1989 (likely when discontinued).

 

Sets for SALE

 

5 1 / 2" x 13" soup dish / bottle cap wheels (for E21 cars)

 

I have two part numbers, BMW 36 11 1 112 732 and 36 11 1 113 341, the source document (can't recall if it was in German or French language) would indicate both might be FPS.  I haven't yet checked my microfiche archives.  BMW ETK doesn't give any information

ET18, weight 5.3 kg

 

6" x 13" soup dish / bottle cap wheels (2002 turbo)

Mahle is BMW 36 11 1 112 514

ET13, weight 5.7 kg.

Those that I have date codes of week 30 of 1976.

 

Sets for SALE to 2002 turbo owners.

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I have a set of these and thinking of selling, would love to know what they are worth as I have no clue whatsoever, can't find an idea of price anywhere. (5x13 mahles)

Well...it's whatever you'd like to ask!

Here's a beautiful set on the German forum, with new tires, for 900 Euros ($1,000-ish):

http://marktplatz.bmw-02-club.de/showad.php?adid=15580

But here's a scruffy set on the German forum for 250 Euros ($275-ish):

http://marktplatz.bmw-02-club.de/showad.php?adid=16177

I believe the U.S. prices are somewhat higher for these rims because they are rarer in the U.S. than in Europe. In addition, the Mahle-manufactured examples (German) are somewhat rarer than the F.P.S.-manufactured examples (Italian), and many "BMW-types" go gaga for the Mahle brand name simply because it's German, or because they recognize the name from their pistons! There is no difference in quality or specs between rims manufactured by the two manufacturers; both were bona fide OEM.

If your rims are un-damaged and true -- needing solely a re-painting -- and all four are Mahles, the range of prices I'd expect to see would be $700 to $1,200 for a set of 4.

Good luck with your sale,

Steve

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