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Special Delivery! From Germany! February 3, 2017

This is my euro spec 1967 1600, 6volt.... matching #s in Derby.... restored 8 years ago in its beautiful original glory!

I am the 4th owner of this stunning car and it's documented that this is one of only four in the world surviving matching#s original Derby 1600 car.

I hope to share this journey with you as I start to preserve this vehicle by maintaining it to be period correct and original....

Tesoro is super happy to have someone to play with! ;)


More pics on the way!



HELLO 67.MOV   <<<<<  (Check out the video from cargo) 




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Wow, Lisa!  It looks fabulous!  Perfect color for an early '02.


The re-painter may have been a bit over-zealous, however, painting over the chassis VIN and installing an underhood sticker applicable to a 1600, 2002, or 2002ti -- I believe the ti was introduced in 1969, after the 1600ti had come and gone.








I was actually hoping to hear from you... would love your additional feedback to help me get this car to PC! Since the car is from Germany, I'm going to have to do some homework with what was PC for Euro may not be PC for US... Such as the tail lights for example... But we can get into that later... 


The car had a "light" respray as it really did not need to go down to chassis (some minimal rust work was done)... the previous owners have preserved the car pretty well... and its exchanged hands in their family.. so I know the car was well taken care for. 


Be in touch!




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There are precious few differences between a January 1967 U.S. 1600-2 and a January 1967 Euro 1600-2.  The differences were so minor at that time that there were not separate U.S. and Euro VIN sequences.  The U.S. versions got U.S.-spec, English-language instruments, sealed beam headlights, front seat belts, and, I believe, U.S.-style license plate illumination.  Not much else.  At some point, Hoffman Motors made the larger optional bumper overriders a "mandatory option".


But if I had a 1967 Euro-spec 1600-2, I'd probably try to keep it as "Euro-spec" as possible.  Yes, I'd probably substitute in a U.S.-spec (mph) speedometer, and store the Euro (kph) speedometer.


If you haven't already looked at, I'd recommend you thoroughly digest Anders's absolutely essential '66 Bible on the U.K. forum:




Most importantly, take your time with this car.  Most of this car has survived for 50 years.  Now the weight rests on your shoulders!


Best regards,





Thanks so much Steve!

I absolutely plan on keeping this car as euro-spec as possible... I've checked out Anders 1600 bible which is a wonderful reference! My car is actually Amy's twinsie! Lots of similar original components ! 


And I agree that the painter got a bit spray happy with the paint.. but I wasn't there to direct him... ;-)


I do plan on taking my time with this time piece... Doing little things here and there at the moment...  in the meantime.... I love just cruising around in it! 


Always a pleasure to hear from you!


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Ahhhhh Lisa, I believe that there is a famous movie line "you have chosen well."


That is an absolutely gorgeous 1600, and a superlative color for it. I wouldn't even change instrumentation to US spec, in fact there's very little I would change at all with that car other than to maybe convert it to 12 V if you're going to drive it a lot. The 12 V conversion doesn't really show, and just gives you a little more dependability and better lights driving at night etc. The wiring can take it, it is more of a alternator,voltage regulator and bulb changing operation.


My second BMW was a early 1600, which I had to buy to put the 2000 tilux motor in, as the  four-door new class 1800 shell (my first car) had rusted away from the drivetrain. I left the old early style steering wheel, same as  you have, in it and put an ratty old Austin Healey leather bucket seat in for the driver. Other than the 2000 TI motor and twin Weber carburetors it was stock. It was scary fast with the stock 411 differential gearing.   I was  a teenager, making five dollars an hour as a construction helper then.  I might've fixed the four-door car if I knew how to put in shock towers back then.


As the Germans say "Jah, ve grow too soon old und too late schmart."


I know you'll like the feel, and Pur Sang nature of you're incredibly beautiful early 1602 very much. I recently found an almost 0 rust 1600, not so early, but with its own charm. I plan on re-creating an early hot rod from the earliest, adolescent days of my BMW romance. I will leave you with a poem, which I believe is called little gidding, from T.S. Eliot.  I found this poem in a John Fowles novel, the Magus, many many years ago and have never forgotten it's beauty, and truth: 


We shall not cease from exploring

and the end of all our searching

will be to arrive at where we started from

and know that place for the first time


It's really more of a cool existential comment on growth and self exploration, but I find it works well for all sorts of things- traveling in Europe working on old  BMWs etc. etc.


As always I applaud and very much appreciate your cheerful celebration of classicIMG_3962.JPG BMWs, your style, and Fantastic enthusiasm.


Very best regards, cheers, Peter

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Really cool car.  The only thing that precludes me from acquiring another is ..... (more) covered storage space - only room for the Alpina car now.  Obviously the black car sleeps inside and I am sure this one is going to need/find a similar spot.  Needless to say these cars - especially nice ones will wither away in the weather.  Have fun with it, looking forward to seeing it.


Peter, funny my FIRST exposure to the "o2" series or at least when I paid any attention, was to a friends '67 16oo.  Still remember it well, it was  painted in colorado with various rust and dings/scratches, but he had put two 40 solex's on it and a hot cam.  It was a really quick car.  We ripped around the Orinda hills in that thing - crazy.  Let me drive it some, no gas pedal (sketchy) but so much fun.  Was stuck on the cars ever since.  Cheers.

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On 2/7/2017 at 8:23 PM, tisalover said:

Ahhhhh Lisa, I believe that there is a famous movie line "you have chosen well."


That is an absolutely gorgeous 1600, and a superlative color for it.  BMWs, your style, and Fantastic enthusiasm.


Thank you so much Peter... you are always so complimentary and I appreciate every word....

It will be easy to keep this car all original as I want to preserve its timeless beauty... And you are right.. there's not much to do on Derby as the previous owners did most of the work on it... I've been passed the torch to be its caretaker and will do my best to continue to give it the best love as possible.


Any feedback on period correctness is appreciated.





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