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Date: 6-22-07 08:27
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: 75 mintgrun MSII M20 conversion
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My 75 project has taken a completely different direction. The M10 and e21 5sp has been sold and replaced with an 88 M20B25 and Getrag 260. See my blog for pictures and information:
http://www.xanga.com/thedoctor02
Some quick background details:
- M20B25, bone stock
- 325i manifold and fuel rail, 19lb version 3 injectors, breathing through a big K&N filter and custom intake pipe
- EDIS 6 ignition
- MS-II v3 and Innovate LC-1
- Volvo 240 front calipers and vented e21 rotors
- VW jetta rear calipers and MK1 vw front rotors for the back
- tii MC
Thanks
Mike
Last edited by mikekoch on 1-23-08 11:41; edited 4 times in total
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Date: 6-24-07 10:27
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: 76 mintgrun Megasquirt-II project
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Megasquirt is an ever-evolving DIY open source engine management system. Your best bet is to do some reading here: http://www.megasquirt.info
Mike
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Date: 11-17-07 07:03
From: 2002Targa in Elizabeth City, NC
Subject: Re: 76 mintgrun MSII M20 conversion
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Heya Mike,
Your blog is looking good. I got to wondering about your tranny tunnel. How hard would it be to take a battery sawzall to the junkyard and whack the tunnel out of an E30? Seems like it would be a big step forward from fabricating one out of scratch...
TK _________________ Life's a garden baby, dig it.
My web album
75 Fjord
73 RHD Targa
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Date: 11-18-07 11:29
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: 76 mintgrun MSII M20 conversion
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I thought about that, and about adding on to the existing tunnel and reinstalling it. It's going to be a lot of work either way. As soon as I get the tranny to driveshaft vertical alignment worked out a decision will need to be made as to which is the slightly smaller pain in the ass. It will be fun anyway.
Engine is in for measurement now.
Mike
| 2002Targa wrote: | Heya Mike,
Your blog is looking good. I got to wondering about your tranny tunnel. How hard would it be to take a battery sawzall to the junkyard and whack the tunnel out of an E30? Seems like it would be a big step forward from fabricating one out of scratch...
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Date: 12-27-07 11:04
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Pictures, and quite a bit of work done
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I've been working on the project as much as I can. Have posted a few pics to the actual blog. http://www.xanga.com/thedoctor02
Here is a teaser of my COP setup using 330i coils:
I've had a few of my own issues with this so far, but I owe credit for the idea to Tim Skwiot:
http://www.hbci.com/~tskwiot/2002_MSII.html
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Date: 12-30-07 03:06
From: m20ohtwo in Mountain View, Calif.
Subject: Re: Pictures, and quite a bit of work done
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I'm glad to see an M20 swapper using that COP setup. Looks like you're doing a great job using that big tranny as well.
I was just driving my m20 2002 last night and despite lack of tune, it puts a smile on my face. Its incredibly smooth and torquey, just what a 2002 needs.
I saw on your blog that your having issues with the edis wheel. I found a way to mount mine that did not require a lathe and still cleared my radiator. It ended up being perfectly balanced too. I used a very small wheel from a certain early 90's thunderbird. and welded mounting nuts to a shortned eta power steering pulley (lined up its concentricity by eye since the wheel and the pulley are nearly the same diameter). The sensor mount was tricky though because the mount had to reach pretty far to meet the small wheel. _________________ -Daniel
M20 swap blog: http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,57/page,viewtopic/t,277525/
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Date: 1-2-08 08:23
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Pictures, and quite a bit of work done
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The COP stuff is straight forward, completely unnecessary, something I have enjoyed working on so far. Still need to devise a way to properly check my timing. There is one open outlet on the wire guide that I'll probably use to hang a lead out from the 1/6 pair, and mod my timing light to work with an alternate signal.
With the EDIS wheel, have that sorted now, just need to timing it tack it in place. The first issue was caused by ignorance on my part (can't machine the balancer as it is a rubber/steel sandwich) and the last two have been misunderstandings at the machine shop. I did some tedious work with a jewelers file the other night and now have the wheel sitting properly flush with a modified PS pulley. Took a while but it's finally done.
Can't wait to drive this car with the M20 in it!
Mike
| m20ohtwo wrote: | I'm glad to see an M20 swapper using that COP setup. Looks like you're doing a great job using that big tranny as well.
I was just driving my m20 2002 last night and despite lack of tune, it puts a smile on my face. Its incredibly smooth and torquey, just what a 2002 needs.
I saw on your blog that your having issues with the edis wheel. I found a way to mount mine that did not require a lathe and still cleared my radiator. It ended up being perfectly balanced too. I used a very small wheel from a certain early 90's thunderbird. and welded mounting nuts to a shortned eta power steering pulley (lined up its concentricity by eye since the wheel and the pulley are nearly the same diameter). The sensor mount was tricky though because the mount had to reach pretty far to meet the small wheel. |
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Date: 1-2-08 08:27
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Pictures, and quite a bit of work done
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Marty
I wish I had started with an auto! The manual tunnel is just too small. Is it worth the work? Yeah, because I can fit a 265 in there later if I turbo the M20 and won't have to mod anything. Clearance between tunnel and gas pedal will be very tight, in fact I may need to make some slight mods to the clutch and brake pedals to make it all line up and still have enough for a size 13 shoe.
I'll be in your area in a week or so visiting friends. If you make it down here give me a call at 503-329-4073 and I'll tell you how to get here.
Thanks
Mike
| Marty wrote: | | Nice work Mike I'm doing the same thing M20 and 265 into a mintgrun 75 former automatic shell, one thing to watch when you fad up the tranny tunnel to firewall section is the clearance for your foot on the gas petal it's real tight. I'm up in Bellevue and would like to take a look if i'm down south someday. |
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Date: 1-24-08 12:00
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Sidetracked perhaps, but progress is being made
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Just a quick update, to include pictures when I can get them up.
Engine compartment is completely stripped of wires, brake lines etc, getting ready to clean it up and respray it. I can't see putting a nice clean engine in such a rusty, filthy hole of a place.
Dropped the subframe and have now decided to take the opportunity to rebuild the whole assembly with all new poly bushings, ball joints and tie and track rods. New seals for the steering box too. It's all apart as of a few minutes ago. The stock rubber is fair in some spots, but bad in others. Somebody replaced a couple of the bushings but they all need to go.
Since I have tomorrow off, I'll be finishing the tunnel. I'll be doing the front section in 16ga to give strength back to the firewall, then joining that to the rear section with three panels (to make all of the right contours) of 20ga. Then is all gets trimmed, wire-wheeled and primed. It will be great to have that done.
I now have the brake Ts I need to plumb the Alpina-style brake master cylinder. Picked up a spare pedal box to use for the project. Thanks Gordon and Steve (Blunt).
Mike
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Date: 2-20-08 08:24
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Progress pictures
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Date: 2-21-08 09:24
From: -=Charley in SoCal
Subject: Re: Progress pictures
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awesome metal work Mike! I seriously need to take note on that tranny tunnel. it's not fun trying to get the tranny out with the stock tunnel. looks like your almost ready to roast the tires! _________________ King of Avatar
M20-02 blog
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Date: 2-21-08 09:30
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Progress pictures
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Thanks Charlie I appreciate. Not far to go now until I can get the engine back in, just some repainting, the fab work on the Alpina-esque pedal box (yikes) and running brake lines. Oh, and finish grinding, reworking the throttle linkage, seam sealing, undercoating, blah blah blah. Lots of work but it does feel a lot closer now.
One drawback to the tunnel is that there is no way in hell the throttle will fit in the stock location, I pedal box fab include moving the pedals as far to the left as I can so I can either weld the stock pivot back on, or fab something new...
Fun fun
Mike
| -=Charley wrote: | | awesome metal work Mike! I seriously need to take note on that tranny tunnel. it's not fun trying to get the tranny out with the stock tunnel. looks like your almost ready to roast the tires! |
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Date: 3-7-08 11:16
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Progress pictures
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Thanks, I'm glad I stopped dragging my feet on it (too much to do already) and just got it done. Doing the same to the rear as well.
Now I have to clean the wheel wells and repaint the engine bay just to make everything look right!
It never ends...
| deutchfiend wrote: | | fresh sub frame looks sooo pretty |
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Date: 4-9-08 08:24
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: A snails pace
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It's incredible how much little time I have these days. Oh well, kids are fun.
I managed to complete my coilovers so I wanted to post a pic. It's from my phone so sorry about the poor quality:
Ever onward...
Mike
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Date: 4-9-08 10:41
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: A snails pace
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Thanks!
They're rabbit sport inserts in shortened strut housings, 275lb Eibach springs and coilover kits from speedwaymotors.com. Coilover kits required shortening and some back-cutting on the inside (lathe required) to accommodate the perches and glan nuts. The spacers are about 3" and are made of 1.5" OD .25" wall aluminum tube.
edit: I should also add that the kits, while designed for bilsteins, are not for *these* bilsteins. The hole in the upper perch was too small (or too big depending on how you look at it) for the strut to go through. I could grind off the lip the gaitors lock into, or increase the diameter of the hole in the upper perch. I opted to grind the strut, felt that the other way would weaken the perch.
Lots of work, but a good-looking result.
Mike
| 70roundtail02 wrote: | | coils look really nice what setup/route did you go for them? |
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Date: 4-18-08 10:33
From: cjreents in Portland, OR
Subject: Re: A snails pace
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Hey Mike -
I saw that your selling a Magnaflow muffler... what's your new plan for the exhaust?
Thanks,
Chris _________________ '71 2002 M20 Conversion Blog
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Date: 4-18-08 10:50
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: A snails pace
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A different Magnaflow actually (#11236) I'll have to modify the spare well for it to fit, but in the end I'll be able to use a wider range of mufflers. I heard this on a car and I really like the sound. It's not quiet, but has a really nice, well, growl I guess. Can't wait to hear the M20 through this thing.
Mike
| cjreents wrote: | Hey Mike -
I saw that your selling a Magnaflow muffler... what's your new plan for the exhaust?
Thanks,
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Date: 4-30-08 06:42
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Paint is done
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Date: 4-30-08 12:32
From: bmw1602.com in Los Angeles
Subject: Re: Paint is done
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what radiator is that.....? _________________ 68' 1602
98' ///M3 Sedan
88' ///M3 Sold *
06' ///M3 Competition Pkg Sold *
http://www.bmw1602.com/
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Date: 4-30-08 12:47
From: mikekoch in Vancouver, WA
Subject: Re: Paint is done
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85 golf/Jetta TDI w/AC. Very similar to the scirocco of the same year, slightly different dimensions. I happened to find a used one cheaply that I used for mockup, then picked up the new one.
Mike
| bmw1602.com wrote: | | what radiator is that.....? |
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Date: 5-1-08 12:21
From: cjreents in Portland, OR
Subject: Re: Paint is done
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Looking good Mike - I'll have to stop by in person one of these days...
- Chris _________________ '71 2002 M20 Conversion Blog
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