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Date: 5-6-08 04:28
From: KFunk in Southeast Ohio. View user's profile
Subject: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)



Since nobody is running FSP with me anymore locally, I decided to bump myself to E-Prepared for the weekend for some extra competition, while keeping my car with a full interior. Bumpers aren't required in EP, so I temporarily removed them. It feels like they're atleast 40 lbs. each when you include all accompanying hardware.

For even more fun, many of my friends jumped to EP as well with their daily drivers, and they all removed their bumpers too. We had a total of 9 drivers in EP. Some were legal, some probably weren't, but who cares?

In short, the 2002 was faster, smoother, and more fun than its ever been. The car was incredibly smooth and easy to control in the corners. Along with fixing some throttle linkage issues, it was awesome to run full WOT from the DCOEs thru corners a lot more than I ever expected I could.
I got plenty of compliments from course workers.
Unfortunately I didn't win the class, but I was going up against fully gutted racecars with a full-interior daily driver that isn't even that well prepared for F-Street Prepared class.
There's still plenty of time left in the car, and I need to work on my driving skills to pick up that time.

Here are some pics of all the EP cars, along with a short description:

1. 41.078 seconds

A gutted, well prepped CRX. No chance I'd ever catch him Sunday, but I sure made every attempt to get near there.

2. 41.732 seconds

Don't know much about this Neon, but it appears gutted. I probably could've easily beaten it if I ran conservative my last couple of runs, but I went all out trying to shave off enough time to beat the CRX, and massacred most of the course in the process.

3. 41.774 seconds


My ugliness! Got a trophy atleast.

4. 42.568 seconds

A gutted DSM, which actually placed 1st in EP-Ladies, with a guy driving it. They let him do that so he could run an earlier heat since he had to leave... but I adjusted rankings myself to include him.

5. 42.998 seconds

Well-prepped GTI that won the EP class championship last year.

6. 43.488 seconds

Marty in the MkI Jetta. He always runs without bumpers... even on the streets... he's just crazy like that. He's also got some bigger motor from a different VW in it, so its probably not legal, but he had street tires on it.

7. 43.658 seconds

The 52hp/50mpg diesel pickup, daily driver, with old 13x9 hoosiers, 600lb. springs, Koni double-adjustable on the front, all borrowed from his normal VW that he usually races. This guy can drive anything stupidly fast, so he'll probably be co-driving the 02 next time.

8. 43.962 seconds

Dick retired his turbo monster E30, and instead ran his daily driver 91 318is on street tires (sans bumpers of course).

9. 44.141 seconds
(co-driver of GTI that got 5th)


Also of particular interest from other classes:

-48.079 seconds

Chevy Aveo with body kit, heheh.

-can't find time, but not that fast

OSU's hybrid project Equinox, with turbo diesel engine powering front wheels, and electric Ford engine powering rear wheels (taken from electric Ranger). I don't know the details on this thing, but a US Senator had signed the valve cover, and I saw pictures of it on billboards when I drove home.

Now really, here's the good stuff:
-40.841 seconds



The sound... was amazing. I've heard Lambos and Ferraris and American V8s of all sorts, but they sound nothing like that.

There's plenty more pics of everything here:
http://richard.safier.com/OVR/5%204%2008%20PTs%202/index.html

and full event results here:
http://www.ovr-scca.org/_autocross/results2008/class.asp?season=2008&rid=7
(keep in mind I counted the EP-'lady' as a dude, since it was)

On top of the meet-up for Dieter's b-day in Kettering, a fun weekend altogether!

edit:aw crap, its a fake GT40. liar....
http://www.putschracing.com/cars.php
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1974 2002, 4224479, #74 EP/FSP, daily driver, track toy
1983 Yamaha RX50: 7hp/70+ MPG, in town run-about
1992 Miata: #43 CSP, winter beater



Date: 5-6-08 06:30
From: gwb72tii in the great PNW View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

great pics k man
looks like a lotta fun
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Date: 5-6-08 06:35
From: steve k. in Redwood City, CA View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

hehe, EP?? I hope you removed more then just the bumpers. You can dro the car to 2000lb now :)

steve k.
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Date: 5-6-08 09:30
From: KFunk in Southeast Ohio. View user's profile
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

steve k. wrote:
hehe, EP?? I hope you removed more then just the bumpers. You can dro the car to 2000lb now :)

steve k.


Actually, I get a 75 lb. weight penalty since my wheels are over 7" wide (13x8), so I think the minimum weight is 2075lb. I should probably weigh the car to see where i'm at....
But in any case, its still my daily driver! This car is just too awesome for driving around town, and I don't want to drive the miata. Any ideas for other reversible/comfortable stuff I can get away with in EP? I haven't read all the rules yet. It seems like I can do all kinds of stuff, but many of which I don't want to do or can't afford.
I still want to jump back to FSP if I get local competition there... but if not, EP is the only place I can get local fun.
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1974 2002, 4224479, #74 EP/FSP, daily driver, track toy
1983 Yamaha RX50: 7hp/70+ MPG, in town run-about
1992 Miata: #43 CSP, winter beater



Date: 5-6-08 10:00
From: VaderDave in El Dorado Hills, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

I was expecting a much different thread when I read the title.



Date: 5-8-08 09:35
From: RussTii View user's profile
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

We had the same issues when FSP participation dwindled here in ARSCCA, so we took the '02 into EP where we ran up against 1700 pound Honda's with slicks and 10 inch wheels and 127 hp at the wheel. We took a bunch of weight out of the car via interior, heater, wipers, glass, gutted doors,etc. but these aren't real practical for a DD. Six point cage added back some weight so we ended up at 2034 pounds with 3/8 tank of gas and lightweight 13x7 wheels. Of course we now have another problem in that EP participation has dwindled so we're thinking about EM where we generally beat most of the other drivers. I suppose if a truly maxed out EM car were to show up, ie: at Divisionals, etc we'd get smoked but that's not an everyday occurence.

The bottom line is the 2002 is an old school car that is not super light and the tradeoff between lightening the car for competition and using it as a daily driver becomes a question of priorities. Do you enjoy driving it more on the street or 60 seconds at a time on the A/X course ? We actually enjoy beating virtually all the newer BMW's, especially since many of their owners have no clue why the funny little box has a Roundel on it's hood !!
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Date: 5-8-08 02:10
From: KFunk in Southeast Ohio. View user's profile
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

Yeah... that'd be awesome, but thats not gonna happen. It's just too good of a street car, and my only reliable long haul driver right now (the miata... its too rusty...) Plus, I just don't want to daily drive a modern car...

Ideally it'd be great to have an 02 for the street and one for racing, but there's just no way I can come up with the money or the time for a second 02 right now.

Really though, stripping the interior shouldn't give me much gains at all. My integra backseat is just foam and fairly light, and the carpeting and such can't be too much, plus all the weight would be in the center of the car.
There's still plenty of FSP-legal mods that would help quite a bit. I'm still running the stock battery in stock location (shopping around for light replacement/relocation options now). I've got no camber at all.... might order some fixed plates soon. Still running simple H&R Sports... would like to get some coilovers, but too much money and no time to weld up some of the rigged honda coilovers.
But most importantly, still got plenty of driving ability to make up for. I've never been to an evo school or any type of training. It's too bad the one in Cincinnati is already sold out this year...

In any case, the bumper removal was a free mod and well worth it. It'd be a lot easier if I relocate the battery though, since the battery blocks access to one big bolt.
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1974 2002, 4224479, #74 EP/FSP, daily driver, track toy
1983 Yamaha RX50: 7hp/70+ MPG, in town run-about
1992 Miata: #43 CSP, winter beater



Date: 5-9-08 08:52
From: jrkoupe View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

Great shots......I can hear the car screaming....

about your wheels....13 x 8....what et,..... or back space?........what size tires are those?.....



tia!!



Date: 5-9-08 09:11
From: KFunk in Southeast Ohio. View user's profile
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

jrkoupe wrote:
Great shots......I can hear the car screaming....

about your wheels....13 x 8....what et,..... or back space?........what size tires are those?.....



tia!!


Diamond Racing Wheels, 13x8 with 4.5" backspacing, with 215-50-13 Kumho V710s. Quite a bit of fender rolling is necessary. I haven't gotten it perfect yet, but it isn't that bad.
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1974 2002, 4224479, #74 EP/FSP, daily driver, track toy
1983 Yamaha RX50: 7hp/70+ MPG, in town run-about
1992 Miata: #43 CSP, winter beater



Date: 5-9-08 09:22
From: jrkoupe View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: E-Prepared naked fun times! (no 56k)

super..grazi!!



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