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Date: 11-28-07 11:56
From: zwoirle 
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale  
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Cris:
I live in Goleta,CA, 93117. My primary interest is for my 1971 Colorado 2002 and Inka 1972 tii; no flares and stock suspensions respectively, Bilsteins, suspension techniques springs, Metric mechanic sway bar and Konis excepted. No headlight/bumper raisers exist; the 71 is stock height, the 72 tii @ 18mm lower.
I have driven various incarnations of the '02 (and other Neue Klasse) cars over a million miles, about half of the miles sideways. I never get more than 10k miles out of a set of tires, even with adjustable camber plates; my brand new '69 Colorado went through three sets of XAS Michelins in the first year, before BMW and Michelin refused to honor the 40k warranty. I am very familiar with the common hysteresis (S pattern) wear pattern of tires mounted on the struts of the '02, associated with the camber angles involved with regular .4 g and higher side loads - blame it on the canyons.
But my real concern is lightweight wheels that bend under such loads and heat, and become untrue and unbalanceable which is death upon the 45-55 mph harmonic resonance endemic to the 2002 McPherson suspensions, rubber, polyurethane and mystical bushings nothwithstanding. I gave up on "Metalmaster" brake pads long ago because they melted into calipers; similarly Cosmic, MSW and TSW wheels warped under such conditions; BBS do not.
So tell me about the robustness of Rota wheels (are they really made in the Phillipines, that hotbed of automotive technology?) I'm not concerned about curbs, but curves and trueness. Panasports have generally passed the tests of track and time; I know not from Rota. Please type from experience and be honest.
Regards,
Zwoirle
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Zwoirle bedeutet "l'i'l deuce coupe" auf Schwaebisch.
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Date: 11-29-07 12:07
From: zwoirle
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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Cris:
I live in Goleta,CA, 93117. My primary interest is for my 1971 Colorado 2002
and Inka 1972 tii; no flares and stock suspensions respectively, Bilsteins,
suspension techniques springs, Metric mechanic sway bar and Konis excepted. No
headlight/bumper raisers exist; the 71 is stock height, the 72 tii @ 18mm lower.
I have driven various incarnations of the '02 (and other Neue Klasse) cars over
a million miles, about half of the miles sideways. I never get more than 10k
miles out of a set of tires, even with adjustable camber plates; my brand new
'69 Colorado went through three sets of XAS Michelins in the first year, before
BMW and Michelin refused to honor the 40k warranty. I am very familiar with the
common hysteresis (S pattern) wear pattern of tires mounted on the struts of the
'02, associated with the camber angles involved with regular .4 g and higher
side loads - blame it on the canyons.
But my real concern is lightweight wheels that bend under such loads and heat,
and become untrue and unbalanceable which is death upon the 45-55 mph harmonic
resonance endemic to the 2002 McPherson suspensions, rubber, polyurethane and
mystical bushings nothwithstanding. I gave up on "Metalmaster" brake pads
years ago because they melted into calipers; similarly Cosmic, MSW and TSW
wheels warped under such conditions; BBS do not.
So tell me about the robustness of Rota wheels (are they really made in the
Phillipines, that hotbed of automotive technology?) I'm not concerned about
curbs, but curves and trueness. Panasports have generally passed the tests of
track and time; I know not from Rota. Please type from experience and be
honest.
Regards,
Zwoirle
_________________
Zwoirle bedeutet "l'i'l deuce coupe" auf Schwaebisch.
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Date: 11-29-07 02:04
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car 
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| zwoirle wrote: | Cris:
I live in Goleta,CA, 93117. My primary interest is for my 1971 Colorado 2002
and Inka 1972 tii; no flares and stock suspensions respectively, Bilsteins,
suspension techniques springs, Metric mechanic sway bar and Konis excepted. No
headlight/bumper raisers exist; the 71 is stock height, the 72 tii @ 18mm lower.
I have driven various incarnations of the '02 (and other Neue Klasse) cars over
a million miles, about half of the miles sideways. I never get more than 10k
miles out of a set of tires, even with adjustable camber plates; my brand new
'69 Colorado went through three sets of XAS Michelins in the first year, before
BMW and Michelin refused to honor the 40k warranty. I am very familiar with the
common hysteresis (S pattern) wear pattern of tires mounted on the struts of the
'02, associated with the camber angles involved with regular .4 g and higher
side loads - blame it on the canyons.
But my real concern is lightweight wheels that bend under such loads and heat,
and become untrue and unbalanceable which is death upon the 45-55 mph harmonic
resonance endemic to the 2002 McPherson suspensions, rubber, polyurethane and
mystical bushings nothwithstanding. I gave up on "Metalmaster" brake pads
years ago because they melted into calipers; similarly Cosmic, MSW and TSW
wheels warped under such conditions; BBS do not.
So tell me about the robustness of Rota wheels (are they really made in the
Phillipines, that hotbed of automotive technology?) I'm not concerned about
curbs, but curves and trueness. Panasports have generally passed the tests of
track and time; I know not from Rota. Please type from experience and be
honest.
Regards,
Zwoirle |
Replied to via e-mail. For anyone to read:
The best way to answer this is to let you know the
type of buiness I'm in. My main wheel brands that I
sell are BBS, PIAA, Antera, Azev and the like. I carry
suspension products from Koni, Eibach, H&R and
Hotchkis.
I completely agree that BBS is without a doubt the
BEST wheel compant when it comes to R&D, mfg.
technology and quality. Panasports have always been a
great wheel as well and Mas has done a great job with
that company in the USA. Other Japanese brands like
Epsilon, CSI and the "real" Stern have faded away.
The reason that i picked ROTA to manufacture the wheel
is they manufacture wheels for the OEM. As you know
these wheels still have to meet impact and corrosion
tests to be equipped on vehicles in Japan. Second is
they were the only company to allow me to have a
specific center bore(57.1) and a specific offset(+25)
with realistic numbers for manufacturing.
This allowed me to market a quality product at a
reasoable price and fill a niche. As you know, there
are not that many '02 specific wheels that are
available. Companies like BBS and Panasport would not
even entertain the idea of manufacturing an '02
specific wheel.
Again, I'm not touting this product as the end all
solution to wheels for an '02.
As for meeting the required G load and strenth for
your street car application, I'm sure they'll more
than fill the bill. E30 spec racers are using the
ROTA's with great results. Their cars are equipped
with wide cross section "R" compound tires and the e30
chassis weighs a bit more than the e10.
Any other questions, please feel free to call me at
800.656.1118.
Thanks- Cris
Aftermarket Dist., Inc. _________________ The rides!
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Date: 12-18-07 07:53
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| jlandreth wrote: | | Cris-Please let us(Harv and I) know if you ever do a buy on 12mm.offset.I'm pretty sure that's what I need. Turbo flares and 205/50/15 tires w/Revolution wheels.Thanks |
Please contact me with regards to wheels for your flared car. I may have found a solution.
Cris _________________ The rides!
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Date: 1-3-08 04:31
From: drivebymaster in Texas
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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Just a quick question. I am interested in the Rota Auto-X rims. (White with a red lip). Heres the dimensions they offer:
15 x 6.5 +40 4h x 108
15 x 6.5 +40 8h x 100/114.3
I think they are 40mm offset but what does the offset mean and will these rims with a tire fit on an 02' without rubbing? _________________ Matthew's Car - http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2339098
1972 BMW 2002
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Date: 1-20-08 02:11
From: jyrh
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| zwoirle wrote: | Cris:
I live in Goleta,CA, 93117. My primary interest is for my 1971 Colorado 2002 and Inka 1972 tii; no flares and stock suspensions respectively, Bilsteins, suspension techniques springs, Metric mechanic sway bar and Konis excepted. No headlight/bumper raisers exist; the 71 is stock height, the 72 tii @ 18mm lower.
I have driven various incarnations of the '02 (and other Neue Klasse) cars over a million miles, about half of the miles sideways. I never get more than 10k miles out of a set of tires, even with adjustable camber plates; my brand new '69 Colorado went through three sets of XAS Michelins in the first year, before BMW and Michelin refused to honor the 40k warranty. I am very familiar with the common hysteresis (S pattern) wear pattern of tires mounted on the struts of the '02, associated with the camber angles involved with regular .4 g and higher side loads - blame it on the canyons.
But my real concern is lightweight wheels that bend under such loads and heat, and become untrue and unbalanceable which is death upon the 45-55 mph harmonic resonance endemic to the 2002 McPherson suspensions, rubber, polyurethane and mystical bushings nothwithstanding. I gave up on "Metalmaster" brake pads long ago because they melted into calipers; similarly Cosmic, MSW and TSW wheels warped under such conditions; BBS do not.
So tell me about the robustness of Rota wheels (are they really made in the Phillipines, that hotbed of automotive technology?) I'm not concerned about curbs, but curves and trueness. Panasports have generally passed the tests of track and time; I know not from Rota. Please type from experience and be honest.
Regards,
Zwoirle |
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Date: 1-20-08 02:39
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| jyrh wrote: | | zwoirle wrote: | Cris:
I live in Goleta,CA, 93117. My primary interest is for my 1971 Colorado 2002 and Inka 1972 tii; no flares and stock suspensions respectively, Bilsteins, suspension techniques springs, Metric mechanic sway bar and Konis excepted. No headlight/bumper raisers exist; the 71 is stock height, the 72 tii @ 18mm lower.
I have driven various incarnations of the '02 (and other Neue Klasse) cars over a million miles, about half of the miles sideways. I never get more than 10k miles out of a set of tires, even with adjustable camber plates; my brand new '69 Colorado went through three sets of XAS Michelins in the first year, before BMW and Michelin refused to honor the 40k warranty. I am very familiar with the common hysteresis (S pattern) wear pattern of tires mounted on the struts of the '02, associated with the camber angles involved with regular .4 g and higher side loads - blame it on the canyons.
But my real concern is lightweight wheels that bend under such loads and heat, and become untrue and unbalanceable which is death upon the 45-55 mph harmonic resonance endemic to the 2002 McPherson suspensions, rubber, polyurethane and mystical bushings nothwithstanding. I gave up on "Metalmaster" brake pads long ago because they melted into calipers; similarly Cosmic, MSW and TSW wheels warped under such conditions; BBS do not.
So tell me about the robustness of Rota wheels (are they really made in the Phillipines, that hotbed of automotive technology?) I'm not concerned about curbs, but curves and trueness. Panasports have generally passed the tests of track and time; I know not from Rota. Please type from experience and be honest.
Regards,
Zwoirle |
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? I already responded and sold a set to this gentleman.
Cris _________________ The rides!
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/792851
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Date: 1-26-08 10:32
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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Date: 2-6-08 07:34
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| bimmer2k2 wrote: | Nearing completion of a '73 restoration project. Could I get a quote for a set inc. cap emblems, etc? What are the suggested tire sizes in order to avoid rubs if I went w/ 15" wheels? How about 14"? (Spacers were not reinstalled on the car when the front suspension was redone)
Thanks,
Phil |
Please e-mail me at cpadagasjr at yahoo dot com.
Thanks- Cris _________________ The rides!
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Date: 2-28-08 08:48
From: jaguar
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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do you know if the wheels will acomadate 195.50.15 on a 1975 2002 with tii struts?
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Date: 3-4-08 09:16
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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Date: 3-6-08 04:31
From: Dsigner in Aliso Viejo
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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I think he posted the pricing at the beginning of the thread. Not sure if the deal is still running.
$550.00usd. _________________ 1973 Verona 2002
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Date: 3-12-08 12:17
From: WilC in NJ
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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Cris,
Thanks for the great customer service and the quick delivery. I get tons fo complements every where I take my car.
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Date: 3-12-08 09:20
From: cj in the BMW Sauber F1 car
Subject: Re: 15" ROTA RB sale
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| WilC wrote: | Cris,
Thanks for the great customer service and the quick delivery. I get tons fo complements every where I take my car. |
Definitly my pleasure Wil. Thank you.
BTW, you've earned the compliments. Looks awesome with the two tone!
Cris _________________ The rides!
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