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Date: 11-14-06 11:21
From: Gil in Vancouver, B.C. View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

What is the deal with vehicle legroom these days?

We need to get a new vehicle so that a 16 year old son can drive it. He is just over 6 feet and still growing (just turned 16 too). Currently, he has a choice of driving our newer pickup or Honda CR-V. The truck is too hard for him to start out learning on. The real problem is that when he sits in the CR-V, his knees hit the dash, the steering wheels hits his thighs, and he can't stretch his legs out enough to operate the gas and brake pedals properly. It's unsafe for him to drive.

We want to get another SUV, but as we have learned, SUVs do not have good front legroom. Since they are considered a "truck", I would have thought that they would generally have good legroom. We also want to get something with all-wheel drive and that also has a tailgate that is not too high off the ground so that our dogs can hop in and out more easily (one has arthritis).

We tried a Subaru Forester (they have the highest advertised legroom), but it doesn't quite seem to fit him all that well. We have thought of a car just for him, but the insurance for teenagers is quite expensive here.

I don't quite understand how vehicle manufacturers measure and market their legroom numbers. The Ford truck has an advertised legroom that is less than the CR-V, but when the son sits in it, his legs are nowhere near the dash or steering wheel. So, does one have to basically try out every vehicle you have in mind to ensure you can fit into it okay? I don't understand how tall people (6 feet and up) fit into SUVs - it's a major handicap when it comes to driving one.

We are now even thinking of a station wagon, but the availability in all-wheel drive ones is pretty limited. Anyone have recommendations on what to look at?

TIA
Gil
73 02
79 320i
67 Alfa GTV
58 Fiat - Abarth 850TC replica
67 Fiat 850 coupe - Abarth 1300/124 replica



Date: 11-14-06 12:51
From: a54atii in Yellow Springs View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

Gil,

I can't speak to the issue of SUVs since I don't own or drive one, but I'll offer a couple of observations. I'm 6' 2" with long legs so I think I understand the problem. What I've found is that you need to look at the amount of open space around the steering wheel and the adjustability of the seat. Having more free space around the steering wheel will allow him to move his legs further away from the wheel. But I think seat adjustability is the real key! I've driven my mother's 2003 (?) Subaru Legacy and it is truly painful for me to drive whereas my 2002 WRX is quite comfortable (aside from the seats being a bit too firm). Both of them have similar dash/console areas but my WRX has more seat adjustability. Specifically, it has a height adjuster that when lowered moves the seat down and further back. This makes all the difference! When the seat is at a height that is even with the passenger seat it is uncomfortable for me, but when I adjust it down a bit it frees up the room I need for my legs. (Go to your Subaru dealer and compare the seats to see what I mean.)

The downside of this solution is that the more adjustable seats are usually found on more expensive models. But you might be able to do some seat swapping and come up with something that works, like getting a base Impreza/Forester and putting in some WRX seats. Sorry to be so long-winded. I hope you find something that works.

Good luck,

Karl

p.s. I'm not trying to be a Subaru salesman here, its just a comparison that I know firsthand. Here's my salesman pitch - 165k miles on my WRX and its still going strong. It hauls kids, hauls groceries and hauls asphalt (well, you know...)



Date: 11-14-06 01:05
From: Otis View user's profile
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Date: 11-14-06 02:25
From: scottt in New Hampshire View user's profile
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

I'm 6ft 4in and really like the seating position of my E38 740i. They are a seriously solid car and a 97 - 99 can be bought cheap.

OK, I'm biased.....



Date: 11-15-06 04:01
From: robspeed in INDIANAHHH!!!! =D View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

Gil wrote:
What is the deal with vehicle legroom these days?

We need to get a new vehicle so that a 16 year old son can drive it. He is just over 6 feet and still growing (just turned 16 too). Currently, he has a choice of driving our newer pickup or Honda CR-V. The truck is too hard for him to start out learning on. The real problem is that when he sits in the CR-V, his knees hit the dash, the steering wheels hits his thighs, and he can't stretch his legs out enough to operate the gas and brake pedals properly. It's unsafe for him to drive.

We want to get another SUV, but as we have learned, SUVs do not have good front legroom. Since they are considered a "truck", I would have thought that they would generally have good legroom. We also want to get something with all-wheel drive and that also has a tailgate that is not too high off the ground so that our dogs can hop in and out more easily (one has arthritis).

We tried a Subaru Forester (they have the highest advertised legroom), but it doesn't quite seem to fit him all that well. We have thought of a car just for him, but the insurance for teenagers is quite expensive here.

I don't quite understand how vehicle manufacturers measure and market their legroom numbers. The Ford truck has an advertised legroom that is less than the CR-V, but when the son sits in it, his legs are nowhere near the dash or steering wheel. So, does one have to basically try out every vehicle you have in mind to ensure you can fit into it okay? I don't understand how tall people (6 feet and up) fit into SUVs - it's a major handicap when it comes to driving one.

We are now even thinking of a station wagon, but the availability in all-wheel drive ones is pretty limited. Anyone have recommendations on what to look at?

TIA
Gil
73 02
79 320i
67 Alfa GTV
58 Fiat - Abarth 850TC replica
67 Fiat 850 coupe - Abarth 1300/124 replica



CR-V is more of a micro-SUV isnt it? like a jacked-up AWD Civic. the civic might actually have more room since it doesnt have all the AWD stuff underneath. all i can do is point out the obvious... go and try out the cars/trucks in person and judge for yourself ... as a 6'4" individual with *COUGH* a bit of extra weight on me, i can definitely sympathize. However, for some reason i am only interested in tiny cars. i saw a lowered ford festiva go by tonight as i was out buying cold medicine for cooper and it reminded me of my OG mini obsession i had as a kid (after watching the italian job--original version) and growing up in a '76 GTi (bought new by parents as carbureted USA rabbit and later converted to GTi, and eventually became my highschool car), and jettas, and the 02. Larger cars dont appeal to me at all, just so much inertia to fight with. not that anyone cares, im just blowing hot air at 3am trying to stay warm... ;) frickin insomnia...... =/
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Date: 11-15-06 02:26
From: SteveJ in Dublin, CA View user's profile
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

As for the dog accessability issue, there are dog ramps out on the market. Basically a light weight, foldable ramp like what would be used for motorsickles.
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Date: 11-15-06 04:39
From: Benetton in fox island wa View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

I'd give him the o2 and buy a new car that you fit into. Im 6' 4" about 160 and i fit perfect in every 02 ive ever sat in.
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Date: 11-15-06 04:51
From: robspeed in INDIANAHHH!!!! =D View user's profile Send e-mail
Subject: Re: New vehicle legroom - what to buy??

Benetton wrote:
I'd give him the o2 and buy a new car that you fit into. Im 6' 4" about 160 and i fit perfect in every 02 ive ever sat in.



hehe the GIANT KILLER that actually holds giants! ;) *COUGH**
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