Harrison,
Did you ever get an answer about the 5 speed tranny? I have one located but I never saw any response regarding the fit in your car.
Todd

Hey Harrison,

I thought I had your email from before but I can't find it. Hit me up if you want at fugitoid at earthlink dot net. As for coming by on the weekend some time thats perfectly fine. Im way to busy at work these days to do anything thats fun during the week.

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Todd21 wrote:

Harrison, Did you ever get an answer about the 5 speed tranny? I have one located but I never saw any response regarding the fit in your car. Todd

Don't know Todd, I've been meaning to call the guys over at Aardvark (I'm planning on using their 5-speed kit) and asking them if its the right model. From my research though, it looks to fit the bill. I need to replace the output seals in it soon, so that'll be a fun project...

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Hey Harrison, I thought I had your email from before but I can't find it. Hit me up if you want at fugitoid at earthlink dot net. As for coming by on the weekend some time thats perfectly fine. Im way to busy at work these days to do anything thats fun during the week. Eric

Will do Eric, I'll be there on Saturday and Sunday, and if I get my pulley in this week, the engine may be going in on Sunday... maybe I could bribe you into giving me a hand if you're available?

A few smallish updates from my crappy weekend. Saturday was ok, but cut short due to work, as was Sunday. At one point I was working on the hood latch bar and found out i had it mounted in "backwards" (that is, the spring was loading the bar the wrong way.) When I removed it, the spring dug a huge gouge in the paint of the rain tray, so now I need to sand that down and repaint it. I also broke the little wheel that the cable bolts to, and frayed the hell out of the cable too. OH! AND I also scratched the bloody hell out of the bar itself.

Because of all that, I've decided to send the bar off to be plated, as it bumps around too much during install for me to rely on it not getting the paint scratched off. I found the orientation of the hood latch bar a little difficult to track down (eventually got the answer on Bill William's Touring re-assembly blog) so I'll be documenting my re-install when the time comes rather thoroughly.

Anyhow, pictures... sorry for the crap quality, taken with my phne because I forgot my digital:

Axis OG-San 15" x 7", 35mm offset (there's a 1/2" spacer on it now, but I'll be running 3/8" now that the crrect ones have come in from Ireland) Kuhmo Ecsta 195-50-15.







Started putting a few of the seals in:





Fabbed up a new dome light panel and some new wiring. Also tossed the roof foam back in... mine is in pretty decent shape for being 30+ years old.









And, finally, finished up the rear sunroof drain tubes. They terminate into a heater valve I got from pep boys that has been cut in half and epoxy-ed into the hole in the wheel well.




If I don't get the pulley in by Friday, the next step will be to do the headliner and start putting in the seals on the doors and windows. Hell, I may even put in the quarter glass soon if i'm feeling ambitious...

Can anyone tell me if the vinyl on the A-pillar and B-pillar goes on before or after the headliner?
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Absolutely awesome work on your car, it is coming along great. one question if you will, i am gonna put a antenna like yours and was wondering what is the distance from rear of hood to the antenna whole?
thanks

Very impressive work

Fabbed up a new dome light panel and some new wiring. Also tossed the roof foam back in... mine is in pretty decent shape for being 30+ years old.


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Kuhmo Ecsta 195-50-15.

I've got the exact same tires on my 02, and I love them. Things are coming together nicely dude. Getting close!
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Absolutely awesome work on your car, it is coming along great. one question if you will, i am gonna put a antenna like yours and was wondering what is the distance from rear of hood to the antenna whole? thanks Very impressive work

Thanks Frank, I'll take some measurements this weekend and let you know what I find. You may have already found yours, but the antenna I used is a Zender piece. It got great reception when the car had a radio in it years ago...
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wow, i havent seen this thread in a good long time. you are really coming along and doing some great work.
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Holy piss, I never want to do another one of these for a looooooong time. My fingers hurt from all the damn clips... I think i used over 600 of them.

Major thanks to my friend Natalie, who helped me every step of the way. This was the first headliner of this type I've ever done (done plenty of cardboard ones, but thats kids stuff compared to this) I like to think we did a pretty damn good job of it.

Total time start-to-finish was about 16 hours. I used Wurth Spray headliner adhesive, which explains the tape (to protect overspray)

Pix: The intro, it all looks so simple when you're just hanging the silly thing on the bars for the first time






I started in the back, got everything hung loosely, then just kept tightening up the slack around each side as I went along. I think this is key to getting all those pesky wrinkles out. My friend Joe is also in these shots; his house is where I work on my car, and I cant thank him enough for putting up with me squatting in his basement for the past year and a half. Thanks dude, I owe you HUGE!









Then we started glue-ing:



Move from the top of the back window, down the back of the C-pillars, to the front of the pillars, then up top to the B-pillars...






After that, we tightened up the front and pulled things as taught as possible to avoid any wrinkling:





Feathered corners (thanks to CD for that video on YouTube! it was a HUGE help.)






The end of day 1 wrapped up everything but the pillar trim and sunroof. Only one *tiny* wrinkle around the driver's C-pillar, which will be directly behind my head so i'll never see it!










I'll voulenteer to shove forks in my eyes before I do another sunroof again. This was an exercise in frustration...









B-pillar and A-pillar trim goes in....







And now she sits and dries for a week...









I'll never do this again.... but I'm glad it turned out as well as it did.
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wow that looks great. i wish you would have told me you were doing this. i would have bought stock in little metal clips. i dont think ive ever seen that many in one place. but the results speak for themselves. when i did mine (non sunroof) i actually enjoyed it. but i used wool and had no sunroof so i suspect that made it a lot easier. you do beautiful work harrison
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Looking better every post! A buddy is going to tackle his headliner soon so I'll have to have him look at your blog before he (we) begin.

BTW, how long have you been hitting up the supply closet at work ;)

Great job!

FANTASTIC WORK!!!!

I do have a question or two:

I thought there was a version of the headliner for sun roofs, did you get the standard version and cut out that area , what would be the best way to remove that portion, incrimentally or is there a standard portion that is prescribed.

Is it possible to get that YouTube segment showing the processs that you mentioned about.

If you are in the Dallas area can you help me do mine JUST KIDDING, I don't want to be responsible for your blindness.

Have you given anymore thought about the limited slip idea?

Again AWESOME WORK!!

J.E.2002

Haha, thanks for the compliments guys, I'll see if i can answer every question:

The YouTube video I mentioned earlier is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcTSF9KVMs&feature=related
In it, they're talking about the completion of the 2002tii that Mobile Tradition made in 2006. They show a few good shots of the assembly, but I wasn't able to follow the example exactly. For one, I used spray-glue as the industrial brush-on wasn't an option for me to acquire. I think the fact that they used a specific glue made for stretch-vinyl headliners contributed to the fact that there are no clips shown...

I hadn't hit up the supply closet at work, but the thought had crossed my mind! In the end, I don't think we have this many at my office, and if I never see another one of those buggers again, I'll be more than happy. Once I yank all of these off, I'll offer the box to anyone who wants to do this to their own car. I don't see myself doing this again for a long while.

The sunroof headliners are different from non-sunroof ones. In a sunroof car, there are 2 ribs toward the back of the car and the entire rest of the headliner is held up by the seams around the windows and sunroof. In a non-sunroof car, there are 5 ribs spanning the length of the headliner and they support it over your head. Pic below is a non-sunroof headliner (powelli's car) in it, you can see the seams around the ribs toward the front where a sunroof car would have none:




I went with one of the Ebay headliners from goliners.com. It was a very nice quality, but there were some very slight alignment issues. Most notably, the material did not like to turn the corner around the sunroof, which is why that particular part was so frustrating for me. For the price, you can't beat it though. You just have to use a little heat on the corners around the sunroof and you're set!

I'm exaggerating about the frustration, really. The first part (before sunroof) was cake and actually a pretty good time. It was only once I had to start wrestling with the material around the corners of the sunroof that I really started getting pissed. All in all, it turned out well I think. I'll be putting in the sunroof and engine in coming weeks, so I hope my newfound progress and good fortune continues.
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Oh, and as far as removing the sunroof section, I traced the line of the sunroof hole on the inside of the headliner with pencil, then scribed another line about 3" in from that one.

I cut along the 3" line, then feathered the corners where the material would need to stretch around the edges of the sunroof. It's not 100% perfect (the last corner I did was a remarkable improvement over the first one) but they all look good with no wrinkles.

Best advice I can give is cut SLOWLY and always cut less then you think you need to.
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all i can say is dam.

nicely done, man!
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Pictures to soon follow, but suffice to say that this weekend went... poorly.

To anyone looking to replace their old sunvisors with units out an e28 528e or similar car, DO NOT USE THE SAME SCREWS THAT CAME IN THE E28. THEY ARE TOO LONG BY ABOUT 1/8"

I know this because I shot two of them straight through my roof yesterday. The only thing that really kept me from totally losing my mind is the fact that I got the engine in.... but I really feel like a fucking amateur moron right now.
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Oh man that sucks to hear that. I was thinking about replacing my visors soon so I am glad you gave the warning. Glad to hear you got the engine in though. I still wanna come by sometime but I need work to ease up some. Being a designer at times sucks. Im sure you know what I mean.

Eric

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Pictures to soon follow, but suffice to say that this weekend went... poorly. To anyone looking to replace their old sunvisors with units out an e28 528e or similar car, DO NOT USE THE SAME SCREWS THAT CAME IN THE E28. THEY ARE TOO LONG BY ABOUT 1/8" I know this because I shot two of them straight through my roof yesterday. The only thing that really kept me from totally losing my mind is the fact that I got the engine in.... but I really feel like a fucking amateur moron right now.

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Engine went in this past weekend... more pics to follow....
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The engine in your car looks so badass and I love the colors. Good job man. I am very jealous.

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That's a great idea to blow up the wiring diagram and hang it on the wall like you did! One that size could save a lot of time.

Harrison,

Did you have the intake manifold powdercoated? Looks great!

Sorry to hear about the sunvisor screws. I almost got in trouble with loc-tite red and exhaust studs, so I know how you feel.

Later,

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Did you have the intake manifold powdercoated? Looks great!

Its actually Krylon Krinkle red. I have a spare valve cover I'm going to be trying it on, was just worried it would be too much bling for under the hood... We'll see.



Ordered some wire for my MSII today, hopefully going to be running that this weekend.
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love the red....makes your car stand out.......

We all makes dumb mistakes from time to time.....I also make an incredible stupid mistake with my roof that I will not mention, suffice to say took me many many hours to fix it.

I call it my idiot tax. Every year I do something that I can attribute to payign my idiot tax. One year I was in a rush and got caught in the carpool lane by myself......once again I knew better......


At least you have a hot assistant! It always helps to have a extra hand helping you out. If only I could get my girlfriend to even approach the garage.....\

The car is looking great! keep it up can't wait to see more progress!
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Man, you must really enjoy frustration, putting the motor in like that, without the tranny.
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madjurgen wrote:

Man, you must really enjoy frustration, putting the motor in like that, without the tranny.

The 5-speed I'm using is a junkyard transmission, and unfortunately I don't have the money right now to replace the seals and get the 5-speed kit I've been looking into. There are a lot of things I need to get sorted out with my MS conversion that can't move forward without the engine in the car (wiring, throttle cable, oil and intake lines, etc) but I DO have those currently, so I'm moving forward with what I can do as my finances permit.

Thanks for your... "consideration"... but I'll deal with the frustration as it comes.
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Harrison, you are the man! Keep hammering away your work motivates a lot of us out here......

So I figured I should post some higher-rez shots of the engine going in and some of the other work I've been doing as well. Engine shots shouldn't need much explanation, so here they are:













A couple of shots of the 02again pulley shim w/ trigger wheel:







Removing some of the clips to put the welting on (I used the same stuff from McMaster-Carr that Bill Williams showed in Pikachu 2)





Testing the best way to cut out the dome light hole in the headliner on some scrap and a spare dome light assembly (when I first did my car, i had a spare, so I put two in. It had to be the worst wiring you'd ever seen... They would only work if the switches for both were in opposite positions...)




All of that was done while it was ASS FREEZING COLD outside. I realize some of you guys will laugh at this picture, but down in Atlanta, this is groundbreaking stuff. Thank god I bought a space heater, I think it was like 18 degrees in the garage before I turned it on...




So that was 2 weeks ago, and the following happened this weekend:

Wiring!

Man, I've been putting this off for a while, but since the engine is in the car and I can lay everything out, I really don't have any excuse anymore. While I'm at it, I'm adding in 2 extra fuseboxes: one for constant power and one for Ignition switched, because I'll be adding a lot and want to leave the factory harness more or less intact. These will control the radio, alarm, radar detector, foglights, aux fan, aux Gauge panel, and MegaSquirt. If I want to add anything in the future, it will be easy to add onto with these under the glovebox.

Relay Board for MS Under the glovebox, the fuse panels will go to the right of this.




Engine wiring, all this has to end up somewhere...




All the unwrapped wires coming through the firewall are new. They all fit through one new grommet, which is good because it fit a pre-existing hole that I had drilled at some time or another. I still need to route the battery cable through, but that can come later (and probably on the passenger side - its getting kind of crowded over here...) You can see red ends on all the leads here - I wrote the associated number of the plugs on these from the wiring schematic on the wall when I rebuilt the harness. This makes life much easier as I can just look at a plug, read the number, then look at the wall. No more tracing wires.




And a quick picture of my aux wiring schematic, as drawn on the side of a really big box with sharpie marker. I'm pretty low-tech.





More to come... cant wait to figure out where all this mess goes.
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Harrison -

It's coming along great! At this rate, you'll be driving by the time summer rolls around!

Keep it up!

Ken
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