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Date: 7-28-06 06:28
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada 
Subject: Re: your all douche bags  
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| esty wrote: | | AlCanuck wrote: |
how many in Esty's camp have used fake names?
Al |
esty doesn't have a camp fats...some people here are independent thinkers and speak their minds....unlike your boy |
Yeah right. Speak their minds, but from behind a fake screen name. Very good, very independant.
And why, oh why must you speak in the third person, Ms. Fat Camp?
Al _________________ 67 1600
77 630csi
81 323i
68 VW Bug
06 Volvo V50
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Date: 7-28-06 06:37
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada
Subject: Re: your all douche bags
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| esty wrote: | | AlCanuck wrote: |
And why, oh why must you speak in the third person, Ms. Fat Camp?
Al |
i don't...that's your paranoid, attempt to be right, save face, be a bigshot, win approval imagination running rampant....
according to him, your boy, k*priss can help you with that.....talk to him...perhaps you 2 can work a trade....rugs for counseling.... |
You don't speak in the 3rd person? HUH?
So, "esty doesnt have a camp fats...." when written BY ESTY is not the 3rd person?
Al _________________ 67 1600
77 630csi
81 323i
68 VW Bug
06 Volvo V50
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Date: 7-28-06 06:59
From: HarryPR in Puerto Rico
Subject: Getting back to the subject matter..
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How about the REAL wording of this internet classic:
In A.D. 2101
War was beginning.
Captain: What happen?
Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb.
Operator: We get signal.
Captain: What !
Operator: Main screen turn on.
Captain: It's You !!
Cats: How are you gentlemen !!
Cats: All your douche bag are belong to us.
Cats: You are on the way to destruction.
Captain: What you say !!
Cats: You have no chance to survive make your time.
Cats: HA HA HA HA ....
Captain: Take off every 'zig' !!
Captain: You know what you doing.
Captain: Move 'zig'.
Captain: For great justice. _________________ HarryPR
BMWCCA #19290
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Date: 7-28-06 08:21
From: Otis
Subject: Re: Getting back to the subject matter..
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[quote="ibjettin"]:)
Another classic
A Few Good Men (1992)
Ah yes, classic, forgot about that one. Did Pulp Fiction address any DBs? Or was that, Reservoir Dogs . . . Anyway, since this is a car-oriented web site, one probably should check the classic car movies for DB references -- The French Connection, The Duel, The Love Bug (sorry, I haven't seen the new animated movie yet, although I highly doubt it addresses DBs).
In any event, it was a bit disappointing that no movie quotes could be found here -- www.douchebags.com. The stuff one can find on the web these days, my goodness . . .
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Date: 7-29-06 12:26
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada
Subject: Re: When did I ever say I was a doctor?
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| TJs692002 wrote: | what about this one....
License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations....To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint......They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Douche Bags! |
Oh, come on now. Way too easy. Caddyshack.
Al _________________ 67 1600
77 630csi
81 323i
68 VW Bug
06 Volvo V50
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Date: 7-29-06 01:25
From: robspeed in INDIANAHHH!!!! =D 
Subject: Re: When did I ever say I was a doctor?
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JOHNNY
The difference lies in the field of civic
virtue. A citizen accepts personal
responsibility for the safety of the body politic,
of which he is a member, defending it,
if need be, with his life.
The douche bag does not.
RASCZAK
The exact words of the text. But do
you understand it ?
Do you believe it ?
JOHNNY
Uh, I don't know.
RASCZAK
Of course you don't. I doubt if any
of you here would recognize 'civic virtue'
if it bit you in the ass.
A bell rings. Rasczak shrugs, indifferent.
RASCZAK
Well, that's it. Have a nice life, douche bags!! _________________ www.jennaishealed.org ........ please visit my "other" baby... shes for sale!
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Date: 7-29-06 04:35
From: Otis
Subject: Re: Some Easy Ones
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Excellent - a FMJ quote. Love it. Endless possibilities there -- "I don't know what I've been told -- Eskimo douche bags are mighty cold!" Or, "Me so horny, me love you long time -- douche bag!" Or, "Joker, they're going to nominate you for the Congressional Medal of -- Douche Bags!" Great film.
Some easy ones:
You don't understand! I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a douche bag, which is what I am.
Go ahead, make my day -- Douche Bag.
Love means never having to say, you're a douche bag.
A douche bag once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
I'm walking here! I'm walking here - douche bag!
We're going to need a bigger boat -- or maybe a bigger douche bag.
Today, I consider myself the luckiest douche bag on the face of the earth.
You've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, douche bag?
Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into - douche bag!
Say "hello" to my little friend -- douche bag!
Hasta la vista, douche bag.
A douche bag. Shaken, not stirred.
Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former douche bag, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac . . . It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!
I'm the king of the douche bags!
I'll get you, my pretty -- and your little douche bag, too!
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Oops -- the last one clearly violated the prior sacred-ground declaration (no Wizard of Oz). Sorry. And okay, some of these were "too easy -- this is too easy!" (but go ahead, name that film!). In any event, I offer one last one, in deference to the "other aspect" of this thread:
"Gentlemen, we can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
Cheers -- and remember -- www.scrolllock.nl/3.cfm
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Date: 7-30-06 02:23
From: Zenon in Delta, BC
Subject: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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Anthony, look, with all due respect, you know nothing about the situation between Zenon and I. We were old friends, and we are not friends any longer. I'm not 100% sure why, but such is life. Was my poke a little below the belt? Yes and no. He is unemployed, and he does live in his parent's basement. No one will dispute that.
I actually hold Zenon's technical knowledge, and his opinions in high regard. So much so, that I have even offered him a job in my shop on multiple occasions. When he said no, I offered him contract work doing electronics, and Megasquirt installs. He still said no. If he accepted the first offer, he would now be into his 2nd year of apprenticeship, gainfully employed, well respected by me, and on his way to a decent career.
Without giving me a proper answer, he simply said no. Not only that, he said no, and told me what he really thought of me, 3 weeks AFTER he, Anita, myself, and another friend went out for a concert and a night of drinking. All was well, and Zenon had no problem drinking my beer, and yucking it up with me. I'm still confused where it all went wrong, and why he started sending silly pictures of me to Esty. That considered, you can see why I might take a below the belt jab from time to time. I won't apologise for it.
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First, let's all get something straight. I live in a "garden level suite" on my family's Ladnannisport compound. And what, exactly, does my "failure to launch" have to do with you?
Anywhoo…
I don't know how you can possibly "still be confused where it all went wrong". I have even gone on record here before. Maybe you need to have a re-read of this from when you took your first post-schism unprovoked online swipe at me:
http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,269452/start,30/
(Hey I noticed this time you dropped the bit about my being divorced, what's up with that I wonder? That was good material.)
The silly picture came from this publicly accessible page on the '02BC web sight and as noted before, I didn't actually snap it:
http://www.zeebuck.com/02bc/spanishbanks_mar05.html
Folks at home, please note that none of the things between Al and I took place publicly and Al, as is his seeming usual, was the one to come in here to fling the crap.
Apparently, Al, you remember little of the actual "job offer" situation, either. Overall, I'd say Anthony sees through you pretty clearly.
Gotta hand it to you, though, you really know how to spread the BS - some people do buy it. No wonder you are so "successful" in your business. You make it sound like you offered me a $100K cameraman job at Girls Gone Wild while I was living in a cardboard box. Your funny-if-it-wasn't-so-creepy Pygmalion-ish fantasy about me is just that - a pure fantasy existing in your mind only until you just wrote about it.
You are conflating key events. Have you no sense of their timing? You only ever really solicited me for some Megasquirt work and that was well over a year ago and well before you expanded your little empire to include a proper repair shop. Even the money was never specified or further discussed. The closest I had ever come to working for you was when I traded you some electrical work for a used engine and some parts that were hitting the dumpster anyway, but that was it and what I learned that day helped me decide never to work for you again. When you made the first oh-so-awesome job offer, we had no business relationship and by then no social relationship and I owed you no explanations for my decision, nor did you ask for one at the time. You would not have liked the answer anyway. I was terse in my reply, but not rude.
I mean, really? I could have been a mechanical apprentice in your fledgling upholstery shop, eh? News to me but wow, that would have been great presuming I had even wanted to be a David Puddy. Sure I have kicked around the idea now and then but always concluded that it is simply not for me. I am an amateur in the truest sense of the word.
But anyway... I don't recall that you were then a licensed automotive tech or qualified to oversee an apprentice. Did you ever actually get your ticket? I also recall that back then your shop was a cluttered, poorly equipped, disorganized mess (wish I had a picture) and the repairs and "restorations" were an unofficial sideline.
Funny, I also don't recall that you then had **any** employees that were qualified auto techs. In fact, you had one "employee" (a recent community college grad) plus Anita part-time doing the skilled trim work, a few shop groupies doing whatever, and I don't recall you doing much other than talking a lot and living the phrase "fake it till you make it".
If you now really can walk the talk, then good for you and I'll rue my missed 1st-class seat on the gravy train but to basically lie to this group to make it seem that you were somehow then offering me the golden ring and instead I kicked you in the nuts for your trouble is simply not right.
You make it seem that all you did was try to "help" me, as if it didn't flow both ways. Before I saw the light, I did things like come out to Surrey when you were stuck to help you get Anita's Rabbit running (a simple electrical problem, but you couldn't find it), help you dismantle that parts car in the pouring cold rain when your back was damaged, and many other little things - I even helped you move. Remember any of that? Sure, you gave me some good parts but I don't recall you ever going much out of your way to do anything for me - and I certainly never asked for your time for anything. I never did a thing to you at any time - I just withdrew and started saying "no" more abruptly because you still kept coming to me.
When you had just moved in to your first shop you were already getting pretty full of yourself as you half-joked to me that I should not distract you from doing your work if I hung around. Already knowing - from direct personal experience - that you are your own worst enemy in that regard, I decided then to not ever let you use me as an excuse for your not being able to get anything done. You will remember that unbidden shop visits from me were very, very rare, even when we were still on friendlier terms.
But, ironically for you, the clinching indication that I should stay far away from you and your shop actually came when you first broached the subject of having me do megasquirt stuff. Between the lines it read something like 'yeah, I could do all this stuff myself but I just don't have the time and "patience" 'cause I'm just sooo busy so I'll do you a big favour and let you do it for me.'
That, coming from a self-proclaimed yet unaccredited "professional wrench" who I knew could barely wire a Pertronix or keep his own cars running (I mean, that’s why you bought that new Volvo, isn't it? How sad is that?), was a pretty clear indication that the required efforts were very likely to be unappreciated (because they are not understood) and therefore under-compensated, and that you would simply be annoying as all hell to work for or even around.
And BTW, what ever happened to your close, personal, multi-VW Megasquirtin' expert buddy Dave who you were originally going to use for this work? Have a falling out with him, too? I know I was never your first choice. Certainly, the last time you asked me to come tune your '02 to pass emissions testing (on emergency overnight notice, no less), you again mentioned the Megasquirt "job offer" only as a carrot 'cause you knew you were asking a tad bit much from someone you had not spoken to for many months. Even then you made a point to mention how you just did not have the “time”. And yet, you had to know I knew that you didn't have the skills - why try to bullshit me while asking for my help except to salve your swollen yet fragile ego?
So, I simply stayed away and yet the crap still happened. Alas, you never got the hint when I no longer called, e-mailed, came around, or did any favours for you any more. Should I have broken up with you formally? (Say, chanting "I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with thee" and then throwing dog poop on your shoes?)
I wanted and still want nothing to do with you, in person or online. Even when you were being a huge dick here in the forums I said nothing unless directly invoked. But I will say now that nobody in the history of this forum, or in my long history in the virtual '02 world, has taken things to as nasty and dark a place as have you and your proxies.
You have a definite MO - take a cheap shot in the sandbox, get a reaction, push it 'till you finally catch some heat from the adults, then act like a victim yourself and finally try to play along as if you did nothing wrong. It is almost schitzophrenic and is fairly classic childhood bully behaviour. But if you are now soooo successful, why do you still need to build up your ego by trying to put others down? Face it Al, you are the floating turd in this kiddie pool.
One last point to further show that you are talking out your ass. The concert thing only happened (admittedly not long before The Situation that was to be the final, irrevokable, straw) because our mutual friend had arranged it and I already had my ticket and did not know you were going to be there.
It was The Bloc Party, dammit, so I wasn't going to let your presence affect my enjoyment and Anita is still a sweetheart so I just had a good time. "Drink your beer" - you speak as if I was one of your shop hangarounds emptying your fridge. I think you knew that your few week's previous pissy response to my saying no to the "emergency" tuning had crossed a line so you bought me a beer at the show (maybe even two) trying to pretend we were cool - and I thanked you for it and drank it happily because, well, ‘Hey! - Free beer!’
What did you want me to do? Reply no and also tell you I kinda think you are a wanker, that's why? Curse you out and spit on the ground when I first saw you before the show? Do the formal break-up ritual right there? Bloody hell, are we in high school?
Please, Al. Just. let. me. go. What we had up on Brokebrake Mountain was wonderful but nothing beautiful lasts and it really is time to move on.
Carlito _________________ '73 2002i Verona (Megasquirt/318i EFI conversion, daily driver)
'72 2002 Golf (bone stock, rusty but still pretty, sleeping)
'73 2002 Fjord (first '02, now parts car, almost gone)
http://www.zeebuck.com
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Date: 7-30-06 03:13
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada
Subject: Re: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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Zenon,
I won't write anything as long as that in reply, because well, I'm not the same calibre writer as you.
I guess I do owe you an apology, and my ego is not too big to offer it up. I apologise for wrongfully referring to your garden level suite as a basement suite, and you're right about your failure to launch not being any of my damn business. Glad to see you still have the same sense of humour, though.
I did call on you when I needed help with moving, and also with getting the 02 through Aircare. At the time of moving, we were pretty good friends, and I asked several other friends to help move as well. Nothing wrong with that, I would have done the same for you. I appreciated it then, and I appreciate it now.
Getting my car through Aircare was not a skillset problem for me, thanks. Why did you get the call? Simple, two reasons. First, I value your technical knowledge, and wanted another opinion. Second, you actually own a nice little tool for testing emissions, that I don't. What I really needed was your Heathkit, not an operator for it. That said, I was busy as hell that day, and running out of time. I assumed(wrongly, and I apologise), that you did not have a large number of things on your plate then, so I asked for a favour. I don't know, but I thought friends were allowed to ask other friends for favours? I'm sorry I didn't realise you were already beginning to dislike me then. If I had of known, I never would have asked.
The job offer. Hmmm, well, lets clear something up. I am a licensed tech, and have been for over 10 years now. I was licensed in Ontario, but lacked my inter-provincial for a number of years. I corrected that when I figured out where my business was going, and that it would include mechanical repair work as well as upholstery. You're right, when I first offered the job, we were pretty rag tag, and some have argued that we still are. Everyone else in my company could see the bigger picture, and I guess I had hoped you would, too. I really wanted you to come on board, and frankly, I still would. At this point in time, I have myself, as well as another tech on staff, both licensed. The new shop is much bigger, but still not quite big enough, although we manage, and have a whole whack of great tools to play with. We never did discuss wages, because it never went that far. You refused, before we had the chance to discuss it. I would not have made the offer, if I did not have a number in my head already. I asked you to do some MS work for me, and yes, you were my first choice, not Dave. Dave never got his car running right, but you did. That sealed it for me. I have not seen Dave for some time, but we do still chat occasionally. No falling out there.
Why did I buy my Volvo? Because I could barely wire in a Pertonix? Huh?Why on earth would you draw a line like that? Not that I need to prove anything to you, or answer anything for you, but the Volvo was purchased because, well, I wanted a nice new car. I was driving a 533i daily, and it was breaking down. I fixed it every time(ask the new owner about the level of prep and repairs that car had), but I was simply running out of time to fix it so often. We can't all drive 30 year old cars daily, as much as we might like to. I now reserve the old cars for sunny days, so that they not meet the terrible fate of Kyle's 02, or many others around here. Biggest reason though, I like it. V50 is a nice car, and I enjoy driving it. Is that OK?
As for the rest, I really had no idea you felt such disdain for me back then. I really did count you as a friend, and I really was trying to help you. Dammit man, I've know you since 99, and you have not had a job since then. That's not right, and I was actually concerned for you. I still am, whether you believe it or not. I'm sorry I kept asking you for favours, when I thought I might have been giving you some excuse to leave your house, and have a little social interaction. I really did think that, so I'm sorry for trying to help, misdirected as it seems it was. I guess I am a little thick sometimes, so you should have just told me to fuck off.
Bloc Party indeed kicked ass, and I had a great time. Seems a bit ironic that part of the fun involved picking that rusty 02 apart on the side of the road. I bought you beers, because I know you are not exactly rolling in dough, and because you were my friend. You had helped me along the way, and it was my simple payback, nothing more. I was only trying to be a friend. If trying to be a decent friend to you gives me the moniker "turd in the kiddie pool", then so be it. I wish you nothing but good luck in the future, and I hope life gets going for you, as well as it has for me.
Take care,
Al
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67 1600
77 630csi
81 323i
68 VW Bug
06 Volvo V50
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Date: 7-30-06 04:05
From: esty
Subject: Re: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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esty's editorial....
you are the floating turd in this kiddie pool
i love it....simple, yet descriptive and how can you forget it
then more spew from larson trying to wiggle his way out of it....(i guess larson couldn't blow smoke over this one.....zenon, was pretty damn articulate.....)
zenon +3
larson<187>
speedbob....is this gonna get moved to your new worthless tidbits forum now?
say zenon...may i blog that post? _________________ 
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Date: 7-30-06 04:13
From: Zenon in Delta, BC
Subject: Re: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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There you go again. Puffing yourself up with marginal truths and taking more shots. I was there, remember? You cannot convince me that down is up.
For the record, though I was certainly supportive at first, I was never any part of your "team" or whatever you think you had and there was no vision to share. Of course, you can promise the world in retrospect. And like I said, I don't really want to be a grease monkey when I grow up (Puddy hates when I say that).
So you are a licensed tech in BC now? Congratulations. Must have been a fairly recent development. As far as I knew, you had told me you had three years of trade school in ON but didn't finish 'cause you moved west. I stand corrected, I guess.
The point I was making and that your schizophrenic response further proves, is that your stated recollections of our relations are BS, even allowing for wildly differing perspectives. Events are events and time is time. There are so many more little things but to try to catalog them would make me look more insane than I already appear for enagaging you here at all. And it would be a colossal waste of time.
You admire my mad tech skilz? That's heartwarming. I like how you make a show of lauding them in the hope of appearing objective ('cause how could you ever deny them in here?), but the only "respect" and "concern" you have for me are feigned for rhetorical purposes. Hell, even when you "apologize", you are taking further shots. Don't bother. I do not need an apology - or anything else - from you. Maybe that is what pisses you off the most.
And about the job thing - let's just say that I am self employed (mainly doing exports, but thinking about moving more into imports) and so I already have a boss that is a low-paying asshole, m'kay?
Now go, please, have a nice life that does not involve me. _________________ '73 2002i Verona (Megasquirt/318i EFI conversion, daily driver)
'72 2002 Golf (bone stock, rusty but still pretty, sleeping)
'73 2002 Fjord (first '02, now parts car, almost gone)
http://www.zeebuck.com
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Date: 7-30-06 04:22
From: Zenon in Delta, BC
Subject: Re: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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| esty wrote: |
say zenon...may i blog that post? |
Thanks for the support but I'd prefer if you didn't blog it. I really do wish to be left out of the perpetual war against the pissy terror of Al Quanuk. I simply had to speak my piece in detail because I was being directly invoked and he was outright lying in order to impugn my character among the burghers here - such as it may be. I should not even care about that but dammit, this has been my playground for a long time, too.
Edited to add:
Al, you can speak of "no hard feelings" best through your actions.
regards,
Zenon _________________ '73 2002i Verona (Megasquirt/318i EFI conversion, daily driver)
'72 2002 Golf (bone stock, rusty but still pretty, sleeping)
'73 2002 Fjord (first '02, now parts car, almost gone)
http://www.zeebuck.com
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Date: 7-30-06 05:43
From: AlCanuck in Surrey, BC, Canada
Subject: Re: Just when I thought that I was out they pull me back in!
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| Zenon wrote: | | esty wrote: |
say zenon...may i blog that post? |
Al, you can speak of "no hard feelings" best through your actions.
regards,
Zenon |
Zenon, I'm sorry. I should not have attacked you here, or anywhere for that matter. It was below the belt, and uncalled for. Won't happen again. You're more than welcome to come by and say hello any time you wish.
Al _________________ 67 1600
77 630csi
81 323i
68 VW Bug
06 Volvo V50
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