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Date: 5-10-08 07:41
From: Gunther
Subject: Spark plug heat range selection

I have a stock 9:1 compression ratio Weber 32/36'd engine. It is able to pass smog test on W8DC Bosch plugs with the timing advanced "a hair" above the stock recommended settings. The engine runs slightly lean and the plugs are always very white to light gray. If the weather gets hot the engine has a tendency to ping on heavy acceleration. I have tried regular and hi octane as well as moroso octane booster without any marked difference.

Without changing any settings other than the installation of slightly colder W7DC plugs - the pinging disappears. However, if I pull the plugs the insulators will be much darker in color and the inside shell of all 4 plugs will be black - evidencing much unburned carbon. The idle with these colder plugs seems slightly rougher too.

Here is my question: which plugs should I use?

The car gets mixed daily use traffic and highway. Common sense tells me the W8DC's burn cleaner, but the pinging is pretty bad when it gets hot. Also, the timing needs to be substantially retarded (below the recommended specs) to eliminate the pinging. This, of course, noticeably retards the performance of the engine. I have also tried BP6ES and BP5ES with similar results. Is there another plug with a wider heat range that might work? A couple of friends suggest trying the silber plugs, or even iridiums, but I am not interested in throwing more good money away. By the way, I am using a jetting just slightly richer than CD's prescription, and the exhaust gas analyzer says we are burning clean, so I am reluctant to change what "seems" to be working.

TIA



Date: 5-10-08 07:47
From: TobyB in Seattle View user's profile
Subject: Re: Spark plug heat range selection

What dizzy?

and

where's it get its vacuum signal?

If it was me, I'd be lazy and run the colder plugs.

More methodical people would retard the timing a bit, then
use more vacuum advance to vary the timing more so that it
won't ping under load...

Honestly, the plug is a tiny part of the combustion chamber,
so I'd just go with the cooler plug...

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Date: 5-11-08 07:06
From: Gunther
Subject: Re: Spark plug heat range selection

Do not have the distributor code off hand, but it is from a european 73 manual trans with Vacuum advance. Vacuum is ported from slightly above the throttle plates (not much choice) on this weber.

Believe it or not, I had tried the distributor from an 73 automatic. It has a much steeper advance curve and it also has a vacuum retard that is ported off of the manifold vacuum. The automatic distributor looks best on paper but, as one might expect, results in far more pinging (except on aviation gas).

Thanks.



Date: 5-11-08 01:10
From: Darby
Subject: Re: Spark plug heat range selection

Denso: W22 EXU works. Warmer than W7DC, Colder than W8DC. I think.



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